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TonyB

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• Oct 7, 2006

• #21

> I have never taken Valium, although I lived for many years with someone
who
> did, and I've never been tempted to indulge. However, if I can find what
> was in the pre-op pill they gave me before an operation I had a few years
> ago, I would buy the company! I was filling my pants about going through
an
> op that basically involved shoving a 4" nail up my nostrils, and a couple
of
> hours before I was due to go in a nurse gave me a little white pill. I
> asked what it was (despite being brought up in the 60s I am pretty
cautious
> about all drugs), and she said it was a pre-med thing to calm me down.
> Calm! I was floating on air, not a care in the world, bring on the
surgeons
> and let 'em do their worst! If I could have one of *those* before flying
I
> think I would go anywhere.

No problem Rich, it was very likely Tamazepam, one of the benzodiazepines.
Both Valium ( Diazepam ) and Ativan ( Lorazepam ) are in the same group.
The effect depends on the dose and I find I need quite a wallop to have any
effect.
Your GP will prescribe them for you if you want to fly.
My GP thinks sleeping tablets would work too but I don't want to
be carried off the plane. Others find alcohol works but if there's a delay
or you get the dose wrong it can be a bit of a disaster!

TonyB
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>
> Take out the obvious to email me.
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TonyB

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• Oct 7, 2006

• #22

>
> The thing with flying to me is the boredom & the fact i'm not a small
chap. Planes are remarkably
> reliable. I suppose it could be a control thing to some. I'm not the best
car passenger in the world as i
> do drive a hell of a lot myself.

Boredom. I wish.....

TonyB

 

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TonyB

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• Oct 7, 2006

• #23

>
> Yes, I'm sure it's the control thing. I'm a lousy car passenger too.
There
> are very few drivers I am totally relaxed with. I tend to weigh them up
in
> the first couple of miles and then either fall asleep or spend the rest of
> the journey pumping hell out of the passenger footwell with my right foot.


OT I know, but what was this 4" nail Rich? A grommet for a sinus problem?
TonyB

 

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TonyB

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• Oct 7, 2006

• #24

"Pantelis Giamarellos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Tony Hi,
>
> does that mean that you fly the plane to Greece or you are flying by plane
> to Greece?
>
> Next time you are here send me an e-mail at pantgATotenetDOTgr and I
may
> be able to meet you at the airport for a coffee.
>
> Take care
> Pantelis

I'm a nuclear radiographer, not a pilot!

TonyB

 

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Ian Rawlings

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• Oct 7, 2006

• #25

On 2006-10-07, TonyB <[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm a nuclear radiographer, not a pilot!

You forgot "Damnit Jim!"

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Richard Brookman

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• Oct 7, 2006

• #26

TonyB wrote:

||| Yes, I'm sure it's the control thing. I'm a lousy car passenger
||| too. There are very few drivers I am totally relaxed with. I tend
||| to weigh them up in the first couple of miles and then either fall
||| asleep or spend the rest of the journey pumping hell out of the
||| passenger footwell with my right foot.
||
||
|| OT I know, but what was this 4" nail Rich? A grommet for a sinus
|| problem? TonyB

More or less. Typical LR build quality - sinuses should have a drain hole
near the bottom to drain out the accumulated gunk, but mine were installed
at the top. Friday afternoon job, probably. I suffered for 40+ years from
blocked nose, infections, catarrh etc. Finally my Dr sent me for an x-ray
and they found the problem. The operation was called a bilateral nasal
antrostomy (or some such) but the Dr explained later it was merely a matter
of inserting a 4" nail in each nostril and banging it upwards with a hammer
once or twice to create the required hole. Thoroughly vile procedure, but
when I came out I could breathe through my nose for the first time in my
life, and haven't had a problem there since.

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GbH

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• Oct 7, 2006

• #27

Richard Brookman wrote:
> TonyB wrote:
>
>>>> Yes, I'm sure it's the control thing. I'm a lousy car passenger
>>>> too. There are very few drivers I am totally relaxed with. I tend
>>>> to weigh them up in the first couple of miles and then either fall
>>>> asleep or spend the rest of the journey pumping hell out of the
>>>> passenger footwell with my right foot.
>>>
>>>
>>> OT I know, but what was this 4" nail Rich? A grommet for a sinus
>>> problem? TonyB
>
> More or less. Typical LR build quality - sinuses should have a drain
> hole near the bottom to drain out the accumulated gunk, but mine were
> installed at the top. Friday afternoon job, probably. I suffered
> for 40+ years from blocked nose, infections, catarrh etc. Finally my
> Dr sent me for an x-ray and they found the problem. The operation
> was called a bilateral nasal antrostomy (or some such) but the Dr
> explained later it was merely a matter of inserting a 4" nail in each
> nostril and banging it upwards with a hammer once or twice to create
> the required hole. Thoroughly vile procedure, but when I came out I
> could breathe through my nose for the first time in my life, and
> haven't had a problem there since.

If they use a 6" nail they can drain all the cra*p from your brian too!

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Richard Brookman

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• Oct 7, 2006

• #28

GbH wrote:

|| Richard Brookman wrote:
||| TonyB wrote:
|||
|||||| Yes, I'm sure it's the control thing. I'm a lousy car passenger
|||||| too. There are very few drivers I am totally relaxed with. I
|||||| tend to weigh them up in the first couple of miles and then
|||||| either fall asleep or spend the rest of the journey pumping hell
|||||| out of the passenger footwell with my right foot.
|||||
|||||
||||| OT I know, but what was this 4" nail Rich? A grommet for a sinus
||||| problem? TonyB
|||
||| More or less. Typical LR build quality - sinuses should have a
||| drain hole near the bottom to drain out the accumulated gunk, but
||| mine were installed at the top. Friday afternoon job, probably. I
||| suffered for 40+ years from blocked nose, infections, catarrh etc.
||| Finally my Dr sent me for an x-ray and they found the problem. The
||| operation was called a bilateral nasal antrostomy (or some such)
||| but the Dr explained later it was merely a matter of inserting a 4"
||| nail in each nostril and banging it upwards with a hammer once or
||| twice to create the required hole. Thoroughly vile procedure, but
||| when I came out I could breathe through my nose for the first time
||| in my life, and haven't had a problem there since.
||
|| If they use a 6" nail they can drain all the cra*p from your brian
|| too!

And a 12" would let out all the hot air too.

4" was bad enough. Trust me on this.

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TonyB

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• Oct 7, 2006

• #29

> || OT I know, but what was this 4" nail Rich? A grommet for a sinus
> || problem? TonyB
>
> More or less. Typical LR build quality - sinuses should have a drain hole
> near the bottom to drain out the accumulated gunk, but mine were installed
> at the top. Friday afternoon job, probably. I suffered for 40+ years
from
> blocked nose, infections, catarrh etc. Finally my Dr sent me for an x-ray
> and they found the problem. The operation was called a bilateral nasal
> antrostomy (or some such) but the Dr explained later it was merely a
matter
> of inserting a 4" nail in each nostril and banging it upwards with a
hammer
> once or twice to create the required hole. Thoroughly vile procedure, but
> when I came out I could breathe through my nose for the first time in my
> life, and haven't had a problem there since.

I thought so Rich.
It's called an Atos Sinovent and I introduced them into the UK in the
early nineties. Made in Sweden from memory.

They should have sprayed your nose with a local anaesthetic first
but you can still feel the tapping of course. It leaves behind a little
rubber
grommet, just like LR grommets!

This is the company and the procedure was similar to that shown but this
seems to be the automated version
for washout rather than the hammer and tube system used to put the grommet
in.
http://www.atosmedical.com/Products/Nose/SinoJect®.aspx

I even had a video of the procedure - I may still have it at work!

It's really nice to know all that hard work helped someone.
TonyB

 

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Richard Brookman

Guest

• Oct 7, 2006

• #30

TonyB wrote:

|| Thoroughly vile procedure, but
||| when I came out I could breathe through my nose for the first time
||| in my life, and haven't had a problem there since.
||
|| I thought so Rich.
|| It's called an Atos Sinovent and I introduced them into the UK in the
|| early nineties. Made in Sweden from memory.
||
|| They should have sprayed your nose with a local anaesthetic first
|| but you can still feel the tapping of course. It leaves behind a
|| little rubber
|| grommet, just like LR grommets!
||
|| This is the company and the procedure was similar to that shown but
|| this seems to be the automated version
|| for washout rather than the hammer and tube system used to put the
|| grommet in.
|| http://www.atosmedical.com/Products/Nose/SinoJect®.aspx
||
|| I even had a video of the procedure - I may still have it at work!
||
|| It's really nice to know all that hard work helped someone.
|| TonyB

Errr ... at the risk of seeming ungrateful, there was no grommet put in - it
was just an 'ole bashed with a sharp instrument and left to its own devices,
or at least that was what I was told. It would be about 1993 or so. And it
was done under a general - no option!

Still OK after 16 years!

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Ian Rawlings

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• Oct 7, 2006

• #31

On 2006-10-07, TonyB <[email protected]> wrote:

> It's called an Atos Sinovent and I introduced them into the UK in the
> early nineties. Made in Sweden from memory.

There has to be an "A tap on the head" punchline in here somewhere..

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Richard Brookman

Guest

• Oct 7, 2006

• #32

Ian Rawlings wrote:

|| On 2006-10-07, TonyB <[email protected]> wrote:
||
||| It's called an Atos Sinovent and I introduced them into the UK in
||| the early nineties. Made in Sweden from memory.
||
|| There has to be an "A tap on the head" punchline in here somewhere..
||
|| --
|| Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

That's funny, but don't faucet.

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Ian Rawlings

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• Oct 7, 2006

• #33

On 2006-10-07, Richard Brookman <[email protected]> wrote:

>> There has to be an "A tap on the head" punchline in here somewhere..
>
> That's funny, but don't faucet.

I'll pipe down before we sink too far!

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GbH

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• Oct 7, 2006

• #34

Richard Brookman wrote:
> TonyB wrote:
>
>>> Thoroughly vile procedure, but
>>>> when I came out I could breathe through my nose for the first time
>>>> in my life, and haven't had a problem there since.
>>>
>>> I thought so Rich.
>>> It's called an Atos Sinovent and I introduced them into the UK in
>>> the early nineties. Made in Sweden from memory.
>>>
>>> They should have sprayed your nose with a local anaesthetic first
>>> but you can still feel the tapping of course. It leaves behind a
>>> little rubber
>>> grommet, just like LR grommets!
>>>
>>> This is the company and the procedure was similar to that shown but
>>> this seems to be the automated version
>>> for washout rather than the hammer and tube system used to put the
>>> grommet in.
>>> http://www.atosmedical.com/Products/Nose/SinoJect®.aspx
>>>
>>> I even had a video of the procedure - I may still have it at work!
>>>
>>> It's really nice to know all that hard work helped someone.
>>> TonyB
>
> Errr ... at the risk of seeming ungrateful, there was no grommet put
> in - it was just an 'ole bashed with a sharp instrument and left to
> its own devices, or at least that was what I was told. It would be
> about 1993 or so. And it was done under a general - no option!
>
> Still OK after 16 years!

Debatable?

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Richard Brookman

Guest

• Oct 7, 2006

• #35

GbH wrote:

|| Richard Brookman wrote:
||| TonyB wrote:
|||
||||| Thoroughly vile procedure, but
|||||| when I came out I could breathe through my nose for the first
|||||| time in my life, and haven't had a problem there since.
|||||
||||| I thought so Rich.
||||| It's called an Atos Sinovent and I introduced them into the UK in
||||| the early nineties. Made in Sweden from memory.
|||||
||||| They should have sprayed your nose with a local anaesthetic first
||||| but you can still feel the tapping of course. It leaves behind a
||||| little rubber
||||| grommet, just like LR grommets!
|||||
||||| This is the company and the procedure was similar to that shown
||||| but this seems to be the automated version
||||| for washout rather than the hammer and tube system used to put the
||||| grommet in.
||||| http://www.atosmedical.com/Products/Nose/SinoJect®.aspx
|||||
||||| I even had a video of the procedure - I may still have it at work!
|||||
||||| It's really nice to know all that hard work helped someone.
||||| TonyB
|||
||| Errr ... at the risk of seeming ungrateful, there was no grommet put
||| in - it was just an 'ole bashed with a sharp instrument and left to
||| its own devices, or at least that was what I was told. It would be
||| about 1993 or so. And it was done under a general - no option!
|||
||| Still OK after 16 years!
||
|| Debatable?
||
|| --
|| Don't say it cannot be done, rather what is needed to do it!
||
|| If the answer is offensive maybe the question was inappropriate
||
|| The fiend of my fiend is my enema!

Always debatable. Ask my "significant other".

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Richard Brookman

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• Oct 7, 2006

• #36

Ian Rawlings wrote:

|| On 2006-10-07, Richard Brookman
|| <[email protected]> wrote:
||
|||| There has to be an "A tap on the head" punchline in here
|||| somewhere..
|||
||| That's funny, but don't faucet.
||
|| I'll pipe down before we sink too far!

Water weak reply.

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Pantelis Giamarellos

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• Oct 8, 2006

• #37

Tony Hi,

I will be at Oropos where my house is.
38.1933,06 N
23.4907,66 E

Will be sending you Juan's phone number by direct e-mail.

Take care and have fun (hope the heavy rainfall yesterday at night did not
create a problem with your trip)

Pantelis

"TonyB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Pantelis Giamarellos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > OK now that is clear.
> >
> > Which company did you use for your boating/sailing excursion?
> >
> > I have a friend who is renting sailboats so if you wish I can give you
his
> > phone number and contact details.
> >
> > Take care
> > Pantelis
>
> Cool. Thanks Pantelis that would be great for next time.
> You can get me at the following:
> crc.medicalATbtinternet.com
> Don't suppose you'll be near Platerias this weekend?
> Regards
> TonyB
>
>