P38A Mirror glass question

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BlackDogZulu

BlackDogZulu

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The RH door mirror (2000 Vogue) is a nasty aftermarket thing, bronze tinted and cloudy/hazy. I need to replace with something better. I can't justify nearly £200 on a genuine electrochromic replacement, but there are plenty of non-dimming glasses between £12 (aftermarket) and £60 (genuine). The question is: would one of these be a direct replacement for the original in terms of size, shape and mounting, only without the dimming feature? I need them to be heated, but I can do without the auto-dim.

I'm looking at BTR6072, and a mounting plate STC4625 as I hear they break. Many thanks.
 
I know they are same on the p38 so I would guess they will be on the l322 as well.
However, the heater elements only lasted one winter in the cheap ones so I'm going to get some genuine ones this winter.
 
Well, interesting. I got a cheap replacement (heated but not dimming) from Island 4x4 and fitted it yesterday. I used a new mounting plate and it was fiddly but easy enough. It looks and works fine, although I haven't tested the heater function yet.

However, I looked at the back of the old mirror glass and it is a genuine part, number 4005-466. The silver colour is still there, but there is a bronze-coloured liquid between the silvering and the glass, which moves around as you tilt the mirror. I am guessing that this is something to do with the auto-dimming, some chemical which has broken down and moved about, and the mirror is beyond repair (it wasn't heating up at all). The liquid wasn't moving when the glass was installed, and hence I thought it was a bronze-tinted aftermarket job.

The only drawback is that the new glass is flat and not convex, so it doesn't match the passenger side. However, for a tenner it will do fine until I can scrape up the spons to afford a proper one.
 
BlackDogZulu said:
Well, interesting. I got a cheap replacement (heated but not dimming) from Island 4x4 and fitted it yesterday. I used a new mounting plate and it was fiddly but easy enough. It looks and works fine, although I haven't tested the heater function yet.

However, I looked at the back of the old mirror glass and it is a genuine part, number 4005-466. The silver colour is still there, but there is a bronze-coloured liquid between the silvering and the glass, which moves around as you tilt the mirror. I am guessing that this is something to do with the auto-dimming, some chemical which has broken down and moved about, and the mirror is beyond repair (it wasn't heating up at all). The liquid wasn't moving when the glass was installed, and hence I thought it was a bronze-tinted aftermarket job.

The only drawback is that the new glass is flat and not convex, so it doesn't match the passenger side. However, for a tenner it will do fine until I can scrape up the spons to afford a proper one.
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Mirror heating is on all the time on the P38.
 
kds said:
After the engine has been running for a minute or two just breath on the glass you will soon know if heating is working.
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Good idea. I stood outside for five minutes with an IR thermometer getting crazy readings before I realised that measuring the temperature of a mirror in direct sunlight was never going to work.
 
I don't know what I was bothering measuring it for :) After a few minutes' running, it actually feels warm to the touch. Looks great and the heater works, not bad for a bit over ten quid. Neither mirror is auto-dimming (so perhaps the passenger side one is a replacement too) but I find the main problem with bright following headlights is the interior mirror - I can ignore the door mirrors much more easily. Cheers all.
 
Luckily, my interior mirror is fully-functional. It works really well and I am glad I have it. I was just saying that it's easier to ignore bright lights in the door mirrors than the main one.
 
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