Magnatec @ Halfords £17.50

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I read somewhere (I think) that if you use mobil 1 that it should be used from new as its so efficient at cleaning that it can clean out any deposits and sludge that was left and cause problems. Thought unipart oil was quinton hazel, I used autocare 10-40 semi last twice as it was on offer for £12.99 for 4.5 litres. Don't think there is any bad oils on the market but really think that fully synthetic oils are a bit ott for an old rangie, just change the oil every 3K, also never had a problem with unipart filters, was told fram made them but don't know if that is true or not.
Davie
 
Davie F said:
I read somewhere (I think) that if you use mobil 1 that it should be used from new as its so efficient at cleaning that it can clean out any deposits and sludge that was left and cause problems. Thought unipart oil was quinton hazel, I used autocare 10-40 semi last twice as it was on offer for £12.99 for 4.5 litres. Don't think there is any bad oils on the market but really think that fully synthetic oils are a bit ott for an old rangie, just change the oil every 3K, also never had a problem with unipart filters, was told fram made them but don't know if that is true or not.
Davie
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I suspect that resellers these days rebadge multiple supplier's oils depending on the spec they are selling. Not all manufacturers produce all specs of oil, Unipart sell a VW 507 spec oil for instance - which is reasonably rare - cheap too. Don't get me wrong Magnatec at under £18 is a good buy - wouldn't pay more for it!
 
StuckAgainSteve said:
I worked for a large oil company years ago, we analysed about 30 competitors' products before developing our own fully-synth, the Unipart oil and Fuchs Titan was obviously identical so we dropped one of them from the test, as was Castrol and Halfords. This was quite a few years ago, they could have changed suppliers since I suppose - however the Unipart oil still looks and smells like the Fuchs I remember. Castrol got the rules changed as to what can be called synthetic so their brews could be called synthetic (yeah right) check out the cold-pour points which don't lie - I'd rather put Unipart oil in my car! Most oils performed very similarly with a few under-performing, only one oil stood out - head and shoulders above the rest - Mobil One. Obviously I can't go into too many details as the company could sue me for divulging their data!
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all interesting stuff, and I love these oil debates- always contentious on all the forums.

Pretty sure the halfuds oil is comma now, several peeps have reported that.

I wouldnt trust that unipart stuff is fuchs now- I would say nowadays it will be the cheapest ****e they can get and mark up for a profit, but thats my opinion.

I just picked up fuchs 10w40 semi for my trooper for £18.99 for 5L delivered which is pretty good.

I also like smith and allen, I use them to get my 20w50 for my 72 rrc gearbox, I am retty sure its rebadged and marked down shell oil if you look at there site hard enough.

Final point, I was in canada last year, like the yanks (and me) they are car mad- every other advert over there is for oil. Castrol advertised the most and there most recent advert (I think it was for there edge) said it protects your engine so many percent (like 50% or 100% or thee times- a lot anyway) better than mobil one.

We Stayed ina hotel with a chick from MOBIL and got chatting over dinner, I mentioned the advert and whe said we are looking in to it, but she didnt have any answers! or deny it!
 
If you want decent oil but want to be sure it's top quality stuff the cheapest route I found is to buy small drums of Morris lubricant's stuff. Their oil really is as good as anything out there (probably bar Mobil One) and it's good value in bulk, they do just about every spec you can shake a stick at. Better still you're supporting British industry into the bargain.

Morris Lubricants
 
StuckAgainSteve said:
If you want decent oil but want to be sure it's top quality stuff the cheapest route I found is to buy small drums of Morris lubricant's stuff. Their oil really is as good as anything out there (probably bar Mobil One) and it's good value in bulk, they do just about every spec you can shake a stick at. Better still you're supporting British industry into the bargain.

Morris Lubricants
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:eek: £35 for 5 litres for me td5 i ****in think not!! :doh:
 
I looked at this a long with the rover p6 guys for my pre 76 rover v8 engine.

we had a hard time finding a morris oil with enough zinc or phos for a flat tappet engine such as the rover v8- especially the early ones we are trying to keep going!

its came down to millers classic , penzoil , comma sonic and comma europa as the best for the job.

It was a bout a 25 page thread over 2 years with another 2 threads linked in too lol :D

all exciting stuff, for my old v8 I went for comma europa 15w50 enhanced mineral

it had nearly as much zinc as all the others which were 20w50 but it was 15w50 - better for those cold morning in my mind. beauty is it was £11.53 for 5l from a factors and at that price you can change it super often without wallet pain!

I agree this isnt much concearn for the later engines which is why I was on about fuchs earlier :D
 
fett said:
I looked at this a long with the rover p6 guys for my pre 76 rover v8 engine.

we had a hard time finding a morris oil with enough zinc or phos for a flat tappet engine such as the rover v8- especially the early ones we are trying to keep going!

its came down to millers classic , penzoil , comma sonic and comma europa as the best for the job.

It was a bout a 25 page thread over 2 years with another 2 threads linked in too lol :D

all exciting stuff, for my old v8 I went for comma europa 15w50 enhanced mineral

it had nearly as much zinc as all the others which were 20w50 but it was 15w50 - better for those cold morning in my mind. beauty is it was £11.53 for 5l from a factors and at that price you can change it super often without wallet pain!

I agree this isnt much concearn for the later engines which is why I was on about fuchs earlier :D
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Worse thing they ever did was introduce catalytic converters, that's why zinc quantities have been reduced to pretty much zero in modern oil. The best last-defence barrier by miles. Stuffs up cats - hence its demise.
 
buckshot said:
:eek: £35 for 5 litres for me td5 i ****in think not!! :doh:
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Agreed - Morris fully synths are over priced, semi-synth and classic oils are more reasonably priced none are cheap. I buy it for the bike and it makes the gearbox feel like silk, for cars I buy Unipart stuff from range! :D
 
One thing to remember is you do not under any circumstances want to be putting modern oil in an old engine. Unless the modern oil is specially formulated for that purpose. Even then pay particular attention to zinc content. IF you don't want to destroy your cam gear. There are i believe some oils advertised as classic 20/50 oils with very little zinc in them. Look around beware.
 
your right , such as halfuds classic , comma classic , and morris classic :doh:

beggers belief!

to make it worse the spec is lower and they are more pricey than the likes of comma sonic which is cheap as chips, better API rating and more zinc and phos.
 
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Hi StuckAgainSteve
I am planning to use synthetic oil and considering Manatec. I see you say that it is not proper synthetic and would be grateful for any info. you have on this so I can make an informed decision.
Thanks
Doug
 
its a cracked mineral oil, not quite a semi sythetic- its called part synthetic.

A long way from fully sythetic oil.

Saying that i used castrol ever since I lernt to drive nearly 20 years ago when gtx was 15w50 and never had oil realted problems.

I always use castrol magnatec 14w40 part syn in my current bmw 4.0 all alloy quad cam v8. I cange it every 3k and it comes out like new honey!
 
Now Im even more confused. I have a can of Castrol Magnatec 5W/30 A1 and on the front label it states "fully synthetic" however, in the description on the back it states "combining Intelligent Molecules and fully synthetic technology". By adding this description are Castrol saying that it is not really fully synthetic oil?
 
it probably is, I use 10w40 which is part synthetic, I havnt looked at a 5w30 can.

go to opie oils and find it , it should give you more details and the spec
 
dougc said:
Now Im even more confused. I have a can of Castrol Magnatec 5W/30 A1 and on the front label it states "fully synthetic" however, in the description on the back it states "combining Intelligent Molecules and fully synthetic technology". By adding this description are Castrol saying that it is not really fully synthetic oil?
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Synthetic - read and weep :(.
 
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