Landrover freelander 1 2005 JATCO vibration on auto output cv joint

Hello I have Recently swapped my auto box Because the old one was throwing codes And now the new second hand box has an imbalance on the out put to the left front cv joint with excess play in it.
Question is can I change the bearing for this from the outer case with the cv out or is this a full gearbox strip to get the the Differential gear bearing replaced and for other info it's done 135,000 not been service stamped from 65,000 so I have just done full full service including self rebuild and bushes on rear diff

Your problem sounds similar to this problem...


That turned out to be the shaft travelling back from the IRD to the LH drive shaft. @xDParis64 resolved it by swapping gearboxes. That was a manual so different to a manual, but the concepts are the same.

There is no diff in the gearbox. The diff is in the IRD. The output from the gearbox goes to the IRD and the IRD then drives the drive shafts. The LH one being a shaft from the IRD that passes through the gearbox.

I don't know how difficult it is to replace the bearings for that shaft - which is presumably why it has play.

Are you sure its that shaft and not the CV?

GrumpyGel said:

Your problem sounds similar to this problem...

IRD Fail???

Hey all! I have been working on my land rover today. For context I have a Freelander 1 1.8 petrol along with a 2.0 TD4 that has rust out of the wazoo so it is a donor parts car (Unable to pass MOT or reasonably be repaired). However I think I have had a huge issue now... I've had a shaky prop...

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That turned out to be the shaft travelling back from the IRD to the LH drive shaft. @xDParis64 resolved it by swapping gearboxes. That was a manual so different to a manual, but the concepts are the same.

There is no diff in the gearbox. The diff is in the IRD. The output from the gearbox goes to the IRD and the IRD then drives the drive shafts. The LH one being a shaft from the IRD that passes through the gearbox.

I don't know how difficult it is to replace the bearings for that shaft - which is presumably why it has play.

Are you sure its that shaft and not the CV?

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Hi thanks for the reply I have looked at the diagram of the box and it sure looks like a Differential no17 or am I looking at the wrong one but to your other question I have just Purchased the expensive drive shaft from euro car parts at £204 instead of the £130 one to hope it fixed it did not so I guess it's changing the bearings I still have the other box so I have spare parts I was going to test the solenoids and wiring to see if it's a easy fix on that one before fixing the one in the car as its not going in to safe mode or anything so still drivable

I know nothing about how automatic gearboxes work internally. Presumably that No. 17 is some part of that!

What I do know though, is that "the differential", which splits drive between the front wheels is most definitely in the IRD. That is the same for all Freelanders regardless of petrol/diesel or manual/auto.

Your problem though is not with the differential inside the IRD. If the LH drive shaft connection is wobbly or loose, that connection/join is past the differential is the drive train. If you look at this pic of an IRD...



The IRD is rotated 90 degrees from its normal orientation in this pic, the 'back' of it is pointing upwards. The big black flange at the top is where the prop shaft bolts to to drive the rear axle.

There are 2 splines on the left, these slot into the gearbox. The larger splines take power from the gearbox, it is on the input shaft that goes into the IRD. This input shaft has gears on it to provide a direct drive to that black flange and further along goes into "the differential" which is at the RH end of the IRD in that pic. The RH drive shaft plugs in to the IRD at the RH side of this pic, basically straight into the diff. The LH output from the diff drives another shaft that turns inside the input shaft and exits the IRD at those smaller splines on the left.

Those smaller splines connect to another shaft that goes through the gearbox and the LH drive shaft plugs into that. It will be this shaft that has play on the LH drive shaft connection.

I don't know how easy it is to replace the bearings supporting this shaft.

I know that when the inner CV wears on the RH drive shaft, this can/will lead to wear on the bearings supporting the drive shaft meaning the RH connection is loose/wobbly and can cause the diff to jam and shatter the IRD casing. I would therefore think it highly likely that if the LH drive shaft inner CV wear, it to could cause excessive wear on the bearings supporting that shaft travelling through the gearbox from those smaller splines. I would have thought actually that it was more likely for the LH side to wear as the drive shaft is shorter and therefore the angles the CV is working at are more acute. That would be very much exaggerated if the car has had 'a lift'.

I don't really know if you would be better off trying to repair these bearings on the replacement box, or using parts from the replacement box to fix your original. I'm sorry, all I can offer is advice, not solutions!

You definitely made a good call not going cheap on the new drive shaft - so long as it is a genuine GKN shaft.