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d3 have the jag engine
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The mondeo and x type share the same engine. But jag build the jag one and ford build th....anyway apprently the jag built one is better. Thats the one in the defenders now.
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The old one were tranny the new one is jag
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Everyone seems to swear by the 200TDi as being bulletproof. I have a 2.5 TD5 which is excellent but vulnerable in deep water due to its extensive electronics.
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When in deep hole stop digging.
Do some research mate, you've drifted from buying a new Land Rover to buying a proppa Landy. Spend some time reading and then come back with some sensible questions eh!!
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I've got you. I didn't know this. I guess that's the way the modern car industry is.
Most people on here will prefer the older engines because they're simpler, tried & tested and easier to fix. Not to mention the fact that the parts are cheap as chips and easy to get hold of. Landyzone has a lot of DIY mechanics but fewer electrical engineers! If this sounds like you then perhaps an older engine will suit you better (200 or 300 tdi)
Don't see why you have to get a new chassis though. Defenders pretty much live forever with continual maintenance and there's a lot of decent late 1990's 300 tdi's around. (assuming you're after one as new as possible)
Don't see why you have to get a new chassis though. Defenders pretty much live forever with continual maintenance and there's a lot of decent late 1990's 300 tdi's around. (assuming you're after one as new as possible)
thanks Rich M and Ragnar Benson for the 200 - 300 advice, yes you guessed right modern electrics are beyond me, so something that could respond to a spanner would be easier. or simply swapping an ecu. It was a relief to find out that you can get an affordable chassis should it be needed, but hopefully not. You assumed right I was looking for recent newish stuff, as much as I love old kit.
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Whats ya budget?
Well I didn't
Good news that
And stopped me looking like a total idiot if anyone had ever asked me what size engine my 200tdi has. I would have guessed at 2 litre Often wondered why it wasn't slower than the othersHi goonarmy really good question, there isn't a budget, but I couldn't live with paying 40k for a disco 4. I've always bought cars older than four years and up to 40 years old. For example there is a 1999 300 tdi 110 van for £5k with 83,000 on the clock, I'd be happy bartering that down and knowing there's a chance it would work and if stuff goes wrong there's money to pay for it. Plus the gears etc haventseen too many miles. Some 110s in late 90s seem to be going for up to £12k in which case I'd rather pay 20k + for something new. I know what I have said probably doesn't make sense. I think the max budget is 20k in my mind but I'd be happier paying under 7k. Plus there's the kitting out eg winch rack etc. Sorry if this is all a bit disjointed.
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You appear to be approaching this as you would be if you were going to buy a standard car - i.e. age directly relating to value and newer logically being better than older. To put it simply, it isn't that simple when it comes to the Defender. You need a different approach.
The standard approach won't necessarily serve you well when out shopping for a Defender. Value is heavily determined by condition and what has been done to the vehicle e.g. galvo chasis, engine, mods etc. You have to keep in mind that these vehicles are bolted together in a way that your average car is not. They can be changed beyond recognition with relative ease.
If you are wondering why prices appear to be so schizo when it comes to Defenders, then this probably has something to do with it.
As said above, spend time researching the pros, cons and pitfalls and the various forms of these vehicles (this site will provide you with the bulk of such info), and things will start to make more sense to you.
Good luck.
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Indeed sir, the very reason I have my 200DTi
(for all its "faults" )
its just me,
a key,
and a uncomplicated turbo doosel.
it starts, runs, still goes well,
and stops when either cambelt goes,
runs out of doosel,
or I just switch it off.
in 3 years of ownership I forgot to change the belt,
never run out of doosel,
and fitted 2 connected batteries.
simple I like!
Ragnar Benson and Easye1, Yes you are right I was probably-definitely approaching it in the wrong way and not understanding the real value in older but well kitted defenders. I was thinking that newer might mean that working parts might last longer. So I was way off course in getting the value side right. Plus, I am beginning to understand the advantages of the 200 over later models. At least I am learning this pre-purchase rather than my normal after the event, too late research, so many thanks for your time and experienced advice. I tend on larger purchases, to buy on emotion and not clear thinking.
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A manky old 01 TD5 with a rotten chassis and neglected drivetrain is not really a patch on an older but well cared for 200/300TDi Fender with a solid chassis.
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