Freelander 1 K series valves position question

Hey guys, I have a weird question in order to determine of my cylinder head is proper.
I see on ebay and various sites cylinder heads have all valves seated at some point.

The problem I have if no mater how much I turn the camshafts I always have two valves open, is this normal or the ones I am seeing perhaps don't have the camshafts in?

websun said:

Hey guys, I have a weird question in order to determine of my cylinder head is proper.
I see on ebay and various sites cylinder heads have all valves seated at some point.

The problem I have if no mater how much I turn the camshafts I always have two valves open, is this normal or the ones I am seeing perhaps don't have the camshafts in?

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When you did the head gasket and were refitting the cam pulleys did you ensure the lugs at the centre of the pullies were in the correct position. It's a mistake I made once and took a while to find, take off the cam pulley bolts and check the little lugs that are covered by the bolts.

Hi Alibro,
Yes the pulleys are correctly fitted with exhaust-in lugs in respective place. However the question is beyond that, is whether I should always have two valves open upon turning (in and/or exhaust) and never to a point where all 8 or 16 are shut.
The head is out of the car and turned upside down to check it out.

websun said:

Hi Alibro,
Yes the pulleys are correctly fitted with exhaust-in lugs in respective place. However the question is beyond that, is whether I should always have two valves open upon turning (in and/or exhaust) and never to a point where all 8 or 16 are ****.
The head is out of the car and turned upside down to check it out.

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Ok, mate. Sorry, that's beyond my knowledge. I refitted my pulleys with the lug for the exhaust pulley in the inlet position and it wouldn't start, funny old thing.
A few others here have done the same thing.

websun said:

However the question is beyond that, is whether I should always have two valves open upon turning (in and/or exhaust) and never to a point where all 8 or 16 are shut.
The head is out of the car and turned upside down to check it out.

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In a 4 stroke, 4 cylinder engine, there will always be 1 cylinder on each of the 4 cycles. So going by this, there will always be 1 cylinder on the induction stroke and 1 cylinder on the exhaust stroke. So those 2 pairs of valves will be open.

You can juggle the cams a bit, to make the valves look almost closed, but there's never going to be a point when all valves are closed.

If all 16 valves are closed, then there's no cam shafts fitted.

As Nodge says, if all 16 valves are closed, some one has removed the cams - otherwise there are at least a pair of open valves.