Jubilee dislocation cure, or not?

Hi guys
Last time I went off roading at Yarwell P`boro, I managed to dislocate a rear spring. Jacked it up and put it back, but can`t afford proper dislocation cones just yet so have fitted jubilee clips around top coil at front and rear. This was recommended as a cheap and cheerful solution `til i can get the real deal.
Are there any drawbacks to this idea that anyones experienced, or can think of?
Need to know soon as off to a quarry in near future.
Cheers.

cheep arse bastard, do it properly on not at all.

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Heard of a few people using Jubilees. No point if cones arethat cheap.

See if you get dislocation cones, could you not theoretically pop out your prop shaft?

hammoj28 said:

could you not theoretically pop out your prop shaft?

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woods767 said:

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Well if your dislocating the springs then your getting lots of flex? So would a standard prop cope with the axle being a further distance? Or is that only an issue with big lifts?

Excuse me for not knowing much about this topic. Gotta learn somewhere.lol

Cant see why jubilee clips would cause any problems. chances are theyd break before any part of the landy, but obviously not the best solution. ino people who have done it as a tempary solution and never hear of any problems.

No you shouldnt have any problems with the props, the length change is very small and thers a lot of movement in the props.

iv never had any prop problems

Awesome.

cones will just allow the axle to droop further which should gain you traction (of sorts) with it cliped, the wheel will hang in the air on full extension. There will be alot of force on it, I would be interested to know how long it would last with the weight of 1/2 an axle and wheel/spring hanging on it.

Im sure lots of people do this with no real negative effect.

G

Well thanks for that Stuey
Have been spendin` on Landy, and aint got much cash anyway, so cheap options are a must until I can do it properly. Thanks for the link, its on `watch`.
Shoulda said, its got a 2" lift.
Does that change anyones opinions?

glad to help.
dislocation cones are needed with a 2" lift

Griffdowg said:

cones will just allow the axle to droop further which should gain you traction (of sorts) with it cliped, the wheel will hang in the air on full extension. There will be alot of force on it, I would be interested to know how long it would last with the weight of 1/2 an axle and wheel/spring hanging on it.

Im sure lots of people do this with no real negative effect.

G

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I think youre quite right that it is a different thing it would reduce the ability of the wheel to droop so far.Think the fact that the spring can extend as well as compress may affect it too.Interesting idea tho,about the strength issue i would use a number of the biggest plastic cable ties i could find instead of the clips.

You can get stainless steel cable ties. Might be an idea?

you say you have a 2" lift.... have you got +2 inch bump stops ????

They are extended bump stops. Exact size I`m not sure.

I have em on my springs and I've never lost a spring. The only draw back is you don't get the same articulation as cones but you get as much as standard.

The props shouldn't have any problems when your suspension flexes, on very serious set-ups they can bind from extreme angles trying let the axles go further than the UJs allow but this is highly unlikely on 2inch kits.

As for jubilee clips, they will obviously reduce your droop travel but other than that you shouldn't have any problems. I couldn't find some at the time so used zip ties, been on there for 6 months in plenty of situations where the springs should pop out and never had a problem.
Harry

Is there any point in the drop travel if its only the weight of the axle on that wheel? Thats what id like to know!

Well, thanx for the responses guys. Quite a mix of opinions and experiences there.
I think, as I go off roading infrequently and will only be in RTV trials, I`ll get away with the jubilee clips at least for now. I will fit the dislocation cones at a later date.
Cheers everybody, great interaction as always. :clap2:

woods767 said:

Is there any point in the drop travel if its only the weight of the axle on that wheel? Thats what id like to know!

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this is the well known debate over whether dislocating spring set-ups are the way to go. X eng produed the X spring to try and combat that exact problem.

Your going to get limited traction with no weight behind it, even if it is fully locked. If your not rock crawling where the surface is predominantly clean and grippy then a dislocating spring set-up is un-neccassary IMO. Certainly fitting cones to a 2" lift is wise, but I am refering to the full dislocating set-up from the likes of extreme 4x4 etc.

G