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I am a Land Rover enthousiast from Holland. I wondered if an Italian reader
could probably help me.

I own a Series III 109 pickup, called Fango, which I completely restored
last year. See (in Dutch) my website : www.blubberweb.tk

This Land Rover I bought in Germany, from someone who found it in Italy. I
would like to try to find out more about the history of this car and maybe
some photo's of it's years in Italy.

Is there a open forum about Land Rover in Italy where I can drop more
details to try to get information? I already mailed the Registro Italiano
but there were no replies :-((

Regards, Jurjen


 
jcbr wrote:
>
> This Land Rover I bought in Germany, from someone who found it in Italy. I
> would like to try to find out more about the history of this car and maybe
> some photo's of it's years in Italy.

I can't help you with the Italian thing, but just thought (being the
grammar freak that I am) that I'd point out that in English, there's no
apostrophe for plurals - unless you're a greengrocer.

Maar veel geluk met jouw onderzoekingen!

 

"Torak" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> jcbr wrote:
> >
> > This Land Rover I bought in Germany, from someone who found it in Italy.
I
> > would like to try to find out more about the history of this car and
maybe
> > some photo's of it's years in Italy.
>
> I can't help you with the Italian thing, but just thought (being the
> grammar freak that I am) that I'd point out that in English, there's no
> apostrophe for plurals - unless you're a greengrocer.
>

Torak

If you are referring to the use of the apostrophe in the word "photo's" then
there IS an apostrophe, not because it's a plural, but because it is a
shortened word - from photographs. You used the same rule in your use of
can't instead of cannot.
For what it's worth, I think Jurgen's English is bloody good!

Steve
'84 110 V8
Durban


 
>
>I can't help you with the Italian thing, but just thought (being the
>grammar freak that I am) that I'd point out that in English, there's no
>apostrophe for plurals - unless you're a greengrocer.

Whilst the pedants are out in force I will add that there is at least
one surplus comma in your sentence. That is unless you are Tony
Blair, in which case there is a comma after every third word. I
cannot watch the man speak due to his infuriating pauses every two
seconds. He looks like he's giving dictation to someone who doesn't
do shorthand.



--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70

My Landies? http://www.seriesii.co.uk
Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com
Tony Luckwill web archive at http://www.luckwill.com
 
On or around Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:02:23 +0200, "Steve Maloney"
<kit&[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>"Torak" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> jcbr wrote:
>> >
>> > This Land Rover I bought in Germany, from someone who found it in Italy.
>I
>> > would like to try to find out more about the history of this car and
>maybe
>> > some photo's of it's years in Italy.
>>
>> I can't help you with the Italian thing, but just thought (being the
>> grammar freak that I am) that I'd point out that in English, there's no
>> apostrophe for plurals - unless you're a greengrocer.
>>
>
>Torak
>
>If you are referring to the use of the apostrophe in the word "photo's" then
>there IS an apostrophe, not because it's a plural, but because it is a
>shortened word - from photographs. You used the same rule in your use of
>can't instead of cannot.
>For what it's worth, I think Jurgen's English is bloody good!

me too, but you missed the fact that he's got an apostrophe in his
possessive its...

photo's might be blaggable by the logic you stated, 's a nice try anyway,
although I'd tend to argue that photo is a word now in its own right - COD
has it (=photograph) as a word, not as an abbreviation.

 
Steve Maloney wrote:
> "Torak" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>jcbr wrote:
>>
>>>This Land Rover I bought in Germany, from someone who found it in Italy.
> I
>>>would like to try to find out more about the history of this car and
> maybe
>>>some photo's of it's years in Italy.
>>
>>I can't help you with the Italian thing, but just thought (being the
>>grammar freak that I am) that I'd point out that in English, there's no
>>apostrophe for plurals - unless you're a greengrocer.
>
> If you are referring to the use of the apostrophe in the word "photo's" then
> there IS an apostrophe, not because it's a plural, but because it is a
> shortened word - from photographs. You used the same rule in your use of
> can't instead of cannot.

Well, yes and no. Certainly that was the case at the beginning of the
century, but now "photo" is a full word in its own right. Thus no
apostrophe.

Yeah, I'm picky. Mamma was a journalist, I've got subbing in the blood. ;-)

> For what it's worth, I think Jurgen's English is bloody good!

It is, yes. That's the only reason I commented; because Dutch uses
apostrophes for plurals, it's a very common mistake when they then learn
English. (I went to school in Brussels - lots of Dutch friends!)

 
Tim Hobbs wrote:

>>I can't help you with the Italian thing, but just thought (being the
>>grammar freak that I am) that I'd point out that in English, there's no
>>apostrophe for plurals - unless you're a greengrocer.
>
>
> Whilst the pedants are out in force I will add that there is at least
> one surplus comma in your sentence. That is unless you are Tony
> Blair, in which case there is a comma after every third word. I
> cannot watch the man speak due to his infuriating pauses every two
> seconds. He looks like he's giving dictation to someone who doesn't
> do shorthand.

Hehe, yes... Although the comma isn't strictly speaking excessive.
It's... well, optional. Its use in that context neither more nor less
grammatical than if it were absent.

And anyway, there were only two commas - it can't have been Blair. :-Þ

 
Austin Shackles wrote:
> On or around Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:02:23 +0200, "Steve Maloney"
>>"Torak" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>jcbr wrote:
>>>
>>>>This Land Rover I bought in Germany, from someone who found it in Italy.
>>I
>>>>would like to try to find out more about the history of this car and
>>maybe
>>>>some photo's of it's years in Italy.
>>>
>>>I can't help you with the Italian thing, but just thought (being the
>>>grammar freak that I am) that I'd point out that in English, there's no
>>>apostrophe for plurals - unless you're a greengrocer.
>>
>>If you are referring to the use of the apostrophe in the word "photo's" then
>>there IS an apostrophe, not because it's a plural, but because it is a
>>shortened word - from photographs. You used the same rule in your use of
>>can't instead of cannot.
>>For what it's worth, I think Jurgen's English is bloody good!
>
> me too, but you missed the fact that he's got an apostrophe in his
> possessive its...

Yeah, but I reckoned that would be picky... 0:)

> photo's might be blaggable by the logic you stated, 's a nice try anyway,
> although I'd tend to argue that photo is a word now in its own right - COD
> has it (=photograph) as a word, not as an abbreviation.

Bugger, you got there before me. I just posted that.

 
So Tim Hobbs was, like

> That is unless you are Tony
> Blair, in which case there is a comma after every third word. I
> cannot watch the man speak due to his infuriating pauses every two
> seconds. He looks like he's giving dictation to someone who doesn't
> do shorthand.

And his inablilty to pronounce words ending in "im" or "in" - somewhere
between victm and victum. And don't get me started on the choppy "let me
make this absolutely clear" hand movements.

You know when a relationship's over when you start to hate someone for the
everyday little oddities that you once thought were charming. I'm like this
now with TB. I voted for him in 97 (along with a lot of others), but now I
can't stay in the room if he's on the TV.

And his "people's princess" speech on the death of Diana (complete with
deliberate catch in the throat) caused projectile vomiting in the Brookman
household.


--

Rich

Nullum Gratuitum Prandium


 
So Torak was, like

> > It is, yes. That's the only reason I commented; because Dutch uses
> apostrophes for plurals, it's a very common mistake when they then
> learn English. (I went to school in Brussels - lots of Dutch friends!)

Well, they would do, with all the veg they grow. They probably get taught
the grocer's apostrophe at school as a national institution.

:)

Dutch friends - I'm kidding - I love you all. Nicest country in the world
after UK.


--

Rich

Nullum Gratuitum Prandium


 
Richard Brookman wrote:
> So Torak was, like
>
>>>It is, yes. That's the only reason I commented; because Dutch uses
>>
>>apostrophes for plurals, it's a very common mistake when they then
>>learn English. (I went to school in Brussels - lots of Dutch friends!)
>
> Well, they would do, with all the veg they grow. They probably get taught
> the grocer's apostrophe at school as a national institution.

Gad, you're right!

> Dutch friends - I'm kidding - I love you all. Nicest country in the world
> after UK.

After UK and *Sweden*. (I'm half Swedish)

And it's such a great language, too - I've had to learn French, but I
learnt Dutch for the fun of it. Het is mooier dan duits en leuker dan
frans... ja, mooier dan frans, dat ook.

 
Richard Brookman wrote:
> So Tim Hobbs was, like
>
>>That is unless you are Tony
>>Blair, in which case there is a comma after every third word. I
>>cannot watch the man speak due to his infuriating pauses every two
>>seconds. He looks like he's giving dictation to someone who doesn't
>>do shorthand.
>
> And his inablilty to pronounce words ending in "im" or "in" - somewhere
> between victm and victum. And don't get me started on the choppy "let me
> make this absolutely clear" hand movements.

Cue Dead Ringers: "Well, Kirsty, *angry* hand gestures, *annoyed* frown,
*sod* the lot of you hand gestures, there were WMDs there. I've got one
here - his name's Skippy."

> You know when a relationship's over when you start to hate someone for the
> everyday little oddities that you once thought were charming. I'm like this
> now with TB. I voted for him in 97 (along with a lot of others), but now I
> can't stay in the room if he's on the TV.

Well, you've seen the error of your ways. ;-)

> And his "people's princess" speech on the death of Diana (complete with
> deliberate catch in the throat) caused projectile vomiting in the Brookman
> household.

I never liked Diana anyway - yes, she did a lot of good, but I just got
the feeling that she was doing it for her own sake, if that makes any sense.

 
> And it's such a great language, too - I've had to learn French, but I
> learnt Dutch for the fun of it. Het is mooier dan duits en leuker dan
> frans... ja, mooier dan frans, dat ook.

Ja, maar kan jy so lekker vloek soos in Afrikaans?


 
"Aubrey" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > And it's such a great language, too - I've had to learn French, but I
> > learnt Dutch for the fun of it. Het is mooier dan duits en leuker dan
> > frans... ja, mooier dan frans, dat ook.
>
> Ja, maar kan jy so lekker vloek soos in Afrikaans?

Hehe... Afrikaans, dat kan ik niet.

Hopelijk heeft mijn antwoord jou niet beledigd?
 
Ahh, then I take it you've watched Dead Ringers

Ron Beckett
Emu Plains, Australia
1995 P38A Range Rover HSE 4.6 Litre V8


"Tim Hobbs" wrote

> Whilst the pedants are out in force I will add that there is at least
> one surplus comma in your sentence. That is unless you are Tony
> Blair, in which case there is a comma after every third word. I
> cannot watch the man speak due to his infuriating pauses every two
> seconds. He looks like he's giving dictation to someone who doesn't
> do shorthand.


 
It's not the "grocer's apostrophe". It's all due to Apostrophe Man!

He flits from sign to sign "fixing" them.

Ron Beckett
Emu Plains, Australia
1995 P38A Range Rover HSE 4.6 Litre V8


"Torak" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Richard Brookman wrote:
> > So Torak was, like
> >
> >>>It is, yes. That's the only reason I commented; because Dutch uses
> >>
> >>apostrophes for plurals, it's a very common mistake when they then
> >>learn English. (I went to school in Brussels - lots of Dutch friends!)
> >
> > Well, they would do, with all the veg they grow. They probably get taught
> > the grocer's apostrophe at school as a national institution.
>
> Gad, you're right!
>
> > Dutch friends - I'm kidding - I love you all. Nicest country in the world
> > after UK.
>
> After UK and *Sweden*. (I'm half Swedish)
>
> And it's such a great language, too - I've had to learn French, but I
> learnt Dutch for the fun of it. Het is mooier dan duits en leuker dan
> frans... ja, mooier dan frans, dat ook.
>


 
So Torak was, like

>> Dutch friends - I'm kidding - I love you all. Nicest country in the
>> world after UK.
>
> After UK and *Sweden*. (I'm half Swedish)

Never been to Sweden, but I'm sure you're right :)

>
> And it's such a great language, too - I've had to learn French, but I
> learnt Dutch for the fun of it. Het is mooier dan duits en leuker dan
> frans... ja, mooier dan frans, dat ook.

"It is more beautiful than German, and funnier than French - yeah, more
beautiful than French as well." Near enough?

I tried to learn some Dutch when I went there for a holiday a few years ago.
I think I am right in saying that, historically, Dutch is closer to English
than it is to Swedish - but it beat me. I managed "good morning" and so on,
but then I developed such a coughing fit I had to give it up.

Netherlands - great place, lovely people (at least, they seemed to like the
Brits - makes a change), best holiday ever. Seriously.

--

Rich

Nullum Gratuitum Prandium


 
So Torak was, like

> Richard Brookman wrote:
>> And don't get me started on the
>> choppy "let me make this absolutely clear" hand movements.
>
> Cue Dead Ringers: "Well, Kirsty, *angry* hand gestures, *annoyed*
> frown, *sod* the lot of you hand gestures, there were WMDs there.
> I've got one here - his name's Skippy."

LOL

>
>> You know when a relationship's over when you start to hate someone
>> for the everyday little oddities that you once thought were
>> charming. I'm like this now with TB. I voted for him in 97 (along
>> with a lot of others), but now I can't stay in the room if he's on
>> the TV.
>
> Well, you've seen the error of your ways. ;-)

Oh yes. Oh, yes yes yes.

--

Rich

Nullum Gratuitum Prandium


 
So The Becketts was, like

> It's not the "grocer's apostrophe". It's all due to Apostrophe Man!
>
> He flits from sign to sign "fixing" them.
>

He must be like bloody Santa, then - everywhere in the world, all in one
night. :)

--

Rich

Nullum Gratuitum Prandium


 
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 00:22:51 +1100, "The Becketts"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Ahh, then I take it you've watched Dead Ringers
>
>Ron Beckett
>Emu Plains, Australia
>1995 P38A Range Rover HSE 4.6 Litre V8
>
>

It does seem to be mandatory to have some kind of speech impediment to
be in Tony's government. There's Brown with his funny jaw thing -
reminds me of a Citroen BX parking up for some bizarre reason. Frank
Dobson mumbling into his beard. Red Ken talking through his nose and
his arse at the same time.

--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70

My Landies? http://www.seriesii.co.uk
Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com
Tony Luckwill web archive at http://www.luckwill.com
 
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