Is this true?
- Thread starter thequeenscheese
- Start date
This site contains affiliate links for which LandyZone may be compensated if you make a purchase.
Thor1950
Well-Known Member
- Posts
- 39,238
- Location
- Land of the midnight sun
teddywood1
Well-Known Member
- Posts
- 5,559
- Location
- stoke-on-trent
diesel cars built before 2014 do not need a cat according to my LR dealer and a lot of cats contain platinum but not a lot but it is still precious metal, and mine goes for a mot on Monday there at LR dealer
IMO there is no point ****ing about with it. The rules can and do change at the drop of a hat.
If you really want to decat it, then do so, but KEEP THE OLD UNIT so that when the rules inevitably change in a couple of years you can refit it.
The biggest hiccup preventing a harmonised EU MOT is Britains reluctance to go to testing every two years. It is every two years here in France and cars are generally in no worse condition for it. As for the test itself, its pretty much identical to the UK test except here they have much more sophisticated testing for the shock absorbers, rather than a UK tester leaning his beer-belly on each corner of the car and seeing if it bounces more than once.
They are pretty lax about rust here though, rusty sills and floor pans will pass as advisory notes.
On the down-side, the car has to be completely standard mechanically. Original engine type, or an engine swap that is homologated for that model by the manufacturer - ie pretty much none....original size tyres etc etc.
If you really want to decat it, then do so, but KEEP THE OLD UNIT so that when the rules inevitably change in a couple of years you can refit it.
The biggest hiccup preventing a harmonised EU MOT is Britains reluctance to go to testing every two years. It is every two years here in France and cars are generally in no worse condition for it. As for the test itself, its pretty much identical to the UK test except here they have much more sophisticated testing for the shock absorbers, rather than a UK tester leaning his beer-belly on each corner of the car and seeing if it bounces more than once.
They are pretty lax about rust here though, rusty sills and floor pans will pass as advisory notes.
On the down-side, the car has to be completely standard mechanically. Original engine type, or an engine swap that is homologated for that model by the manufacturer - ie pretty much none....original size tyres etc etc.
It will come eventually - it will take a long time and a lot of upset, but it WILL happen. Eu-wide registration so that fines can be enforced against drivers committing motoring offenses in other countries, which will also require all cars to be maintained to the same standard, so EU-wide standardised testing.
UK needs to be careful that it doesnt loose some benefits that it currently enjoys....ie BIVA testing for home made and heavily modified cars. Look at that chap that builds the wacky stuff like the road legal sofa and other stuff....no other country in Europe has the facility to allow that sort of thing, including kit cars and loads of other small volume produced stuff.
Yeah, technically I could scratch-build my own 7-style car here in France, but I would have to take it to Paris and pay for it to be crash tested........
UK needs to be careful that it doesnt loose some benefits that it currently enjoys....ie BIVA testing for home made and heavily modified cars. Look at that chap that builds the wacky stuff like the road legal sofa and other stuff....no other country in Europe has the facility to allow that sort of thing, including kit cars and loads of other small volume produced stuff.
Yeah, technically I could scratch-build my own 7-style car here in France, but I would have to take it to Paris and pay for it to be crash tested........
- Posts
- 71,065
- Location
- The Wooly Witch
Believe march 2014
Garages and testing stations will be required check for a diesel particulate filter (DPF) in the inspection of the exhaust system as part of the MOT test (or annual test for heavy vehicles) from February 2014.
Datatek
Well-Known Member
- Posts
- 45,958
- Location
- Near Poitiers SW France
+1 to all that. You can get non homologated stuff registered in France but it's not easy, took me two years and a special derogation from Paris to register my MK1b MR2
What people will do, is fit the cat for the MOT and remove it once it's passed. I've seen this lots with petrol cat's.
God knows what drives these politicians to make policies or what drivel they are fed to justify them.
The only people that gain out of so called emission regulations are the oil companies.
God knows what drives these politicians to make policies or what drivel they are fed to justify them.
The only people that gain out of so called emission regulations are the oil companies.
As with most things French, it depends entirely on the attitude of the person at the desk when you apply. If its nearly lunch time, they cant be bothered and will find a reason to refuse you. If they have never done an import before, they will find a reason to refuse you rather than risk looking incompetent. If they just cant be arsed, they will refuse you. On the extraordinarily rare occasions you encounter someone genuinely helpful, its surprising just what can be done, but dont expect a miracle.
Case in point, my Freelander - It went from a simple import job to a real runnaround with the prefecture and DRIRE due to it being a commercial variant, which were never homologated in France. Got there in the end but it took an extra couple of months and surprise surprise, cost extra too.
Oh, and then a few months later I met a chap with one the same as mine which he just bought no problems in france - they ARE homologated, but due to the jobsworth I had at the desk when I applied not being able to find them on the system, I had to do all that extra work for nothing.
Still had to take off 4 perfectly good 215 tyres and fit a set of 195 tyres, but that was for the CT test as the 215's are not homologated.:doh:
Yet just last week I registered my Mazda pickup, which originally came from Thailand to the UK. Paperwork went straight through without a second glance.....the reason? It was 4.30pm on a Friday when I applied and everyone was in a hurry to finish and get home.
Because its "green" and green is fashionable. Meeting arbitrary targets to satisfy the tree huggers is more of a vote winner than common sense or facts.
Last edited:
The problem with going green does the exact opposite. Every time some other piece emission junk is bolted to an engine, it increases fuel consumption and so CO emissions!! The oil companies knew that in the 70's when they unveiled the cat as a solution to smog. Any car fitted with a cat then lost power and economy compared to it's cat free counterparts!! Net result, more fuel sold by the oil companies and more CO released into the atmosphere!!
Absolutely. Being "green" has nothing to do with actually saving the planet and everything to do with someone somewhere getting rich.
People get excited because their modern TDI saloon does an "amazing" 50 mpg. A peugeot 205 with a 1.4 petrol engine would do 50mpg decades ago. If it was really about reducing emissions and consumption, we would have properly efficient modern engines in very lightweight cars today , but that doesnt make anyone rich so it wont happen.
People get excited because their modern TDI saloon does an "amazing" 50 mpg. A peugeot 205 with a 1.4 petrol engine would do 50mpg decades ago. If it was really about reducing emissions and consumption, we would have properly efficient modern engines in very lightweight cars today , but that doesnt make anyone rich so it wont happen.
Similar threads
