Just a general question. Relation of Mrs Bagshot was talking this week,( and he is a reasonable car savvy chap) and said that on a RR sport, to replace the glow plugs, the body has to lifted, or a hole cut in the bulkhead. Hence many never get done once out of warranty. I won't ever have one to do, but .. myth or fact to settle a discussion..?
Sport Is it a myth or not
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myfirstl322
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Myth.
Glow plugs are within the Vee,
But they usually seize in head and need specialist tools to extract them.
Turbo's are body off I believe.
Glow plugs are within the Vee,
But they usually seize in head and need specialist tools to extract them.
Turbo's are body off I believe.
Hi, thanks for that. I can now sound like I know what I'm on about..
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i've also heard that belts on the back of the sport/D3 are body off..
i've also heard that it can be done without
i've also heard that a shop with experience and lift can get the body lifted in about an hour's labour
i've also heard that it can be done without
i've also heard that a shop with experience and lift can get the body lifted in about an hour's labour
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Would our resident D3 owner @gstuart not be able to put those ones to bed?
Hi
A D3 rear belt can be changed in under an hour without the body being taken off , watched it being done when I had all my belts replaced
Rear belt is for the HPFP and isn’t timed in the 2.7 , but is timed on the 3.0 litre
Ref the body, quickest I’ve heard is 2 x hours min in removing it
The 2 x mechanics from the D3 forum that done all my belts , oil pump cover , tensioners , water pump , crankshaft bolt etc , etc from start to finish was 5 x hours
D3 turbo can also be replaced with the body on, not a 5 x min job but possible
Ref the glow plugs
There are three phases of glow plug heating: Pre heating, crank heating and post heating. The ECM determines the heating times from the Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT). The lower the ECT, the longer the heating times.
Hope that helps
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Any vehicle that has to have the body removed to be worked on is a seriously bad design. I can see that in the future you will have to pay a qualified (NVQ) tyre inflater to blow your tyres up. Manufacturers are trying to remove the ability of anyone other than dealers to work on their cars.
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A Radio 4 programme some time ago,( and R4 never lies..) a car executive from somewhere like Vauxhall or Ford admitted that cars are now designed and built on a 3-4 year lifespan as this is the expected "lease life" that an average Joe would sign up for at a dealer. After that they ain't bothered about repairs out of warranty because it gets handed back, sent to the auction and Tristan/ Kylie just sign up for another one. ( Only saddo's get oily these days it seems..)
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Scary thought, but then & again the way politicians are going we'll all be back on push-bikes before many more years. Being old does have some advantages, such as the likelihood of being able to drive around in a V8 for as long as I'm able
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You will not be allowed anywhere near electric cars when they go wrong.
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I was thinking it will soon be time to get a pony & trapScary thought, but then & again the way politicians are going we'll all be back on push-bikes before many more years. Being old does have some advantages, such as the likelihood of being able to drive around in a V8 for as long as I'm able
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I was thinking it will soon be time to re-familiarize myself with my old pony & trap
#MemoryLane
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You're not wrong
I worked on a car production line a couple of years ago and the mild hybrids were just coming in. The sections where anything remotely to do with the HV side of things was cordoned off and if you were in those areas without 'relevant training and competency' it was instant dismissal.
I wonder how all the back street garages are going to manage when there's a hell of a lot less moving parts other than suspension to go wrong and most manufacturers are using their own different battery packs and EDU's cuz it aint gonna be standardised between marques.
By that I mean at the moment a lot of different manufacturers use same gearboxes and ICE design is all much of a muchness to current mechanics. We're stepping into the unknowwwwwwn.......
I've got a smart 14.2 welshy with harness and trap you can practice on.. (but it wouldn't suit EAS I'm afraid..)I was thinking it will soon be time to get a pony & trap
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its also going to be fun [not] when wear and tear catches up on cars with start/stop 'technology'
Man you look at Tesla, you do anything at all on them, they wont give you codes to reset them at all, look at you tube there's a guy on there always having problems with his https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfV0_wbjG8KJADuZT2ct4SA
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Plenty of electronics to go wrong and motor manufacturers reputation for reliable electronics is not good.
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Certainly not getting any better lol
We are all looking at this from our "oily" points of view. Kylie and Tristan won't be doing any of this in the future, they lease the latest model from the dealership, then have it repaired under the warranty or service schedule and after 3 years just hand it back for a new one. Dealership is happy coz their selling cars in numbers, nobody has to fix anything anymore. Welcome to the disposable generation...!!!
