I would just like to say

Or maybe just one wheel sliding in?
(I'll get my coat!)

derwendolly said:

I can see how he managed to put a downpipe to dump his water on your side but I am finding difficult to understand how he could possibly put a water pipe and an electricity cable onto your property without your knowledge.

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I put up a fence about afoot inside my boundary line when the old chap owned the house due to his hedge been in the way.
House change hands about 8 years ago & im just replacing a fence panel where I found the offending items.
As the house is empty at the moment I strolled round for security reasons I’m looking to find the other end of the cables/pipe.

Hicap phill said:

I put up a fence about afoot inside my boundary line when the old chap owned the house due to his hedge been in the way.
House change hands about 8 years ago & im just replacing a fence panel where I found the offending items.
As the house is empty at the moment I strolled round for security reasons I’m looking to find the other end of the cables/pipe.

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if you put a fence a foot inside the boundary what denotes the fence isnt the boundary

jamesmartin said:

if you put a fence a foot inside the boundary what denotes the fence isnt the boundary

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Yep it’s a bit my fault by putting up a fence when the old owner had a hedge. It was to keep my dogs in.
planning has gone through for a house of multiple occupancy(HMO). & for them to use as such they need to build a higher wall.
This wall should then be built their side of the remaining concrete/wire fence. Leaving a gap between boundaries. I just have to make sure they don’t remove the post.

Hicap phill said:

Yep it’s a bit my fault by putting up a fence when the old owner had a hedge. It was to keep my dogs in.
planning has gone through for a house of multiple occupancy(HMO). & for them to use as such they need to build a higher wall.
This wall should then be built their side of the remaining concrete/wire fence. Leaving a gap between boundaries. I just have to make sure they don’t remove the post.

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theres still remains of an old boundary then

Yep, don't give them an inch, and tell them if they argue about the height of your fence or wall, "Good fences make good neighbours"!

jamesmartin said:

theres still remains of an old boundary then

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Yep. Just need to inform the “new”owners when they arrive.

jamesmartin said:

if you put a fence a foot inside the boundary what denotes the fence isnt the boundary

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.....and what denotes the boundary isn't the fence!
Here we had to tell our neighbours to dig up a French drain they put outside their building as they had built right up to the boundary line.
We took advice about selling them the little bit of land, but the strong advice given was not to do it.
It seemed harsh but they knew bettern me! Froggy law is well obscure sometimes, especially when it comes to "lotissements", (if you sell off more than two plots of a piece of land it becomes a "lotissement" i.e. a housing estate,) and you have to "viabiliser" then, i.e. provide water, electric and even maybe phone lines, I believe, up to the boundary.
I await correction on this from some more in the know than me. But the farmer who sold us our land then had to do it to be able to sell off the last two plots. He cussed like fu ck, as he even had to pay for a fire hydrant to be placed in the road.
Also it turns out that on a lotissement plot you have to either build right up to the edge of the land or a set number of metres inside it . which is why the two "laydeeyz" built right on the boundary. (of a 6000 metre property, ffs!) But they didn't allow for the French drain. )
Anyway they split up before finishing it so we have a half built place next to us. We have an11 metre high hedge so we can't see any of it!)

Stanleysteamer said:

.....and what denotes the boundary isn't the fence!
Here we had to tell our neighbours to dig up a French drain they put outside their building as they had built right up to the boundary line.
We took advice about selling them the little bit of land, but the strong advice given was not to do it.
It seemed harsh but they knew bettern me! Froggy law is well obscure sometimes, especially when it comes to "lotissements", (if you sell off more than two plots of a piece of land it becomes a "lotissement" i.e. a housing estate,) and you have to "viabiliser" then, i.e. provide water, electric and even maybe phone lines, I believe, up to the boundary.
I await correction on this from some more in the know than me. But the farmer who sold us our land then had to do it to be able to sell off the last two plots. He cussed like fu ck, as he even had to pay for a fire hydrant to be placed in the road.
Also it turns out that on a lotissement plot you have to either build right up to the edge of the land or a set number of metres inside it . which is why the two "laydeeyz" built right on the boundary. (of a 6000 metre property, ffs!) But they didn't allow for the French drain. )
Anyway they split up before finishing it so we have a half built place next to us. We have an11 metre high hedge so we can't see any of it!)

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on old deeds ive seen the plan also included measurements,now its just indicative red lines on a print out of a survey map so fences do become boundaries

Stanleysteamer said:

.....and what denotes the boundary isn't the fence!
Here we had to tell our neighbours to dig up a French drain they put outside their building as they had built right up to the boundary line.
We took advice about selling them the little bit of land, but the strong advice given was not to do it.
It seemed harsh but they knew bettern me! Froggy law is well obscure sometimes, especially when it comes to "lotissements", (if you sell off more than two plots of a piece of land it becomes a "lotissement" i.e. a housing estate,) and you have to "viabiliser" then, i.e. provide water, electric and even maybe phone lines, I believe, up to the boundary.
I await correction on this from some more in the know than me. But the farmer who sold us our land then had to do it to be able to sell off the last two plots. He cussed like fu ck, as he even had to pay for a fire hydrant to be placed in the road.
Also it turns out that on a lotissement plot you have to either build right up to the edge of the land or a set number of metres inside it . which is why the two "laydeeyz" built right on the boundary. (of a 6000 metre property, ffs!) But they didn't allow for the French drain. )
Anyway they split up before finishing it so we have a half built place next to us. We have an11 metre high hedge so we can't see any of it!)

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what denotes french boundaries

jamesmartin said:

what denotes french boundaries

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Aha!
Agree entirely about the stupid Land registry maps which fast become meaningless in a boundary dispute, so yes you are best off sticking a fence where you can and waiting for others to try and prove it isn't actually on the boundary!
But in Froggy French land the guy who surveys the land for the Commune, and the local one is our nearest neighbour and actually did our land when we bought it, they stick funny red discs about 8" across, on spikes, at each end of the boundary line. So to fix it you would have to cut back all vegetation etc so you can "eye" the line, or do it with a laser or summat!
So wifey and I used it to put up an 85 metre fence, just posts and wire, to denote the boundary, and worked off that for hedges etc.
So, although the "géometre" will have drawn up plans, of which we have a copy and they are to scale and very detailed, you do have an official physical marker. Think it's quite good actually, peeps don't argue about it, so much here.

Stanleysteamer said:

Aha!
Agree entirely about the stupid Land registry maps which fast become meaningless in a boundary dispute, so yes you are best off sticking a fence where you can and waiting for others to try and prove it isn't actually on the boundary!
But in Froggy French land the guy who surveys the land for the Commune, and the local one is our nearest neighbour and actually did our land when we bought it, they stick funny red discs about 8" across, on spikes, at each end of the boundary line. So to fix it you would have to cut back all vegetation etc so you can "eye" the line, or do it with a laser or summat!
So wifey and I used it to put up an 85 metre fence, just posts and wire, to denote the boundary, and worked off that for hedges etc.
So, although the "géometre" will have drawn up plans, of which we have a copy and they are to scale and very detailed, you do have an official physical marker. Think it's quite good actually, peeps don't argue about it, so much here.

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if theres an actual definitive plan thats far better than what we have now

Wimblowdriver said:

She gonna use you for target practice?

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Considrin she can't hit me wif a Rollin pin frum three feet anything is possible

Stanleysteamer said:

Hmm!
Is the cable live?
Could you use it to power your shed or summat?

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Ooooh, crafty! Double lick.

Just bought all this gear..

& these....

kevstar said:

Just bought all this gear..
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Please Sir, can we all have some sir. ;-)

Some more

Stanleysteamer said:

Or maybe just one wheel sliding in?
(I'll get my coat!)

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Hang on, before you go, like a recumbent bike wif an outrigger?
Anybody else remember the sidewinder leany luggage sidecars that came about when the Motybike laws changed around 1980?I



Edit.. They were pretty sh|t mind you

kevstar said:

& these....
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very nice ive started a collection too but only includes one piece at the moment