How the Mcfudgenuget does GLASS & TRAILWISE work ?

Evening,

Trying to plan a green laning trip in the summer,

Would rather not risk it and would prefer a legal route however, a few problems have arisen,

These websites are a total mess, how the heck is anyone expected to find their way round it ?

Half the links on GLASS dont even sodding work!


Long story short,

Looking for enough lanes to take up a week or two, (PM me the details if you wish)

Cant buy 10's of OS maps before others tell me to,

Failing that that, is Cornwall/Devon any good ?


Cheers for any help !

They are half way through rebuilding it i think. Last time i checked trail wise was down anyway due to some changes by google screwing it

Bump said:

They are half way through rebuilding it i think. Last time i checked trail wise was down anyway due to some changes by google screwing it

Click to expand...

Couldnt make heads or tails of it,

Clearly I caught them in the middle of something lol


Might wait a few weeks then before trying again !

chill winston!

What bump said. there going through some changes atm. Bare with.

They'd better get on with it lol,

Or I'll get me BREN gun !

see, I got that reference

A good substitute for OS maps (for a quick browse) is Streetmap - Maps and directions for the whole of Great Britain. Helps with my planning on the bike.

KeepDigging said:

A good substitute for OS maps (for a quick browse) is Streetmap - Maps and directions for the whole of Great Britain. Helps with my planning on the bike.

Click to expand...

streetmap is shocking, use bing maps with the os setting

SteNova said:

streetmap is shocking, use bing maps with the os setting

Click to expand...

or just use the OS website with the OS maps...

Bump said:

or just use the OS website with the OS maps...

Click to expand...

that's just as bad

SteNova said:

that's just as bad

Click to expand...

might be bad but it's still 1000's times better than bing maps

Easiest way to work a route out, or rather, how I work a route out ...

Start point, look on OS map/Memory Map/online for lanes and draw a few in whilst widening the search area. Decide which way round you want to run the routes and basically join the dots between 'lanes' .. Check contours and wooded areas for potentially scenic roads or smaller roads away from A roads and preferably use these. I aim for an initial route of around 100 miles a day, which is very often added or taken away from, depending on search results.

Check each track/byway/green lane etc for start and end co-ordinates, making a list of 'em and follow these up on trailwise, and on the local council definitive map, many of which are on line. Definitive map trumps Trailwise, mostly, for legality, but often trailwise trumps def map due to user comments, 'Large tree fallen down' for instance ... OS maps also have lots of information to help gauge the severity of a route, boggy ground, hilly/rocky, field systems suggest muddy but knowing a little about the area helps a lot!

OS maps are usually correct, within a couple of years, however especially check tracks in National Parks, their legality can change almost overnight, certainly it's been like that in the Peak District lately ..

I'm new to this greenlaning malarkey, I got myself memorymap to do planing and use as a sat-nav on a nexus, but I find I still have to check and cross reference each counties definitive map and list of TRO/PROs to be sure to be sure.

I couldn't make head nor tails of trailwise, had the same issue with GLASS, tho now I appreciate they're doing something about it, but life too short to wait for them to sort it out as there's no clue on timescale.

Cheers guys, glad to know I'm not the only one who finds those sites a nightmare !

The glass forum is useful for getting local knowledge from the reps but you have to be a Glass member to use it.

I use ViewRanger with OS maps, each council usually has an interactive map nowadays and trailwise.

I would agree that trailwise is clunky and not very intuitive, but once you get the hang of it there's very useful info in it.

I would agree that planning is not a 5 minute job which is why maybe a lot of people just use an OS map without any idea if there are actual vehicle rights on the byway or not....

Jonnyb1990 said:

Evening,

Trying to plan a green laning trip in the summer,

Would rather not risk it and would prefer a legal route however, a few problems have arisen,

These websites are a total mess, how the heck is anyone expected to find their way round it ?

Half the links on GLASS dont even sodding work!


Long story short,

Looking for enough lanes to take up a week or two, (PM me the details if you wish)

Cant buy 10's of OS maps before others tell me to,

Failing that that, is Cornwall/Devon any good ?


Cheers for any help !

Click to expand...

As before, Glass website and TW are experiencing some problems atm, and trailwise has always been eccentric, but it is good when its working, and you have got the hang of it.
I use the landranger sheets a lot, they aren't too pricey of the net, and you should only need three or four, even for a good trip

There are some lanes in Devon and Cornwall, a few good ones, but many are getting built around, so surfacing is spreading. I don't think I would come here specially for a green laning holiday.

Wales it is then !

Shame, I like cornwall !

doesn't anyone do what I do? use the trailwise exporter program and import all the lanes onto memorymap

SteNova said:

doesn't anyone do what I do? use the trailwise exporter program and import all the lanes onto memorymap

Click to expand...

ooh, never noticed that!

scurries off .....

Paul D said:

ooh, never noticed that!

scurries off .....

Click to expand...

it's about a days work to do the whole country lol