Honest opinion on LPG

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Not to state the ovious benifits but is it worth fitting LPG to my 4.6 HSE? I have heard it wears the engine faster than petrol. At present my engine has done 120k and runs sweet as a nut. I have all the parts and LPG kit on my spare RR 4.6 HSE. That one has a knackerd engine! What Im trying to say is for example I know it will lower the fuel costs but will the LPG take off 30k of my engine and blow it up or wear it out sooner than if it stays on petrol. Thanks for any advice................
And thanks to all the advise about my imobiliser problem, turns out it was the key I bought from ebay was no good. So anyone else thinking they are getting a cheaper key, your wasting your money. Just take the hit and buy one from the dealer.............
 
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Not to state the ovious benifits but is it worth fitting LPG to my 4.6 HSE? I have heard it wears the engine faster than petrol. At present my engine has done 120k and runs sweet as a nut. I have all the parts and LPG kit on my spare RR 4.6 HSE. That one has a knackerd engine! What Im trying to say is for example I know it will lower the fuel costs but will the LPG take off 30k of my engine and blow it up or wear it out sooner than if it stays on petrol. Thanks for any advice................

This subject opens up the biggest can of worms I've ever read on these forums. Opinions are roughly evenly divided with those passionate about LPG vs those, myself included, that would'nt touch it (a second time) with the proverbial barge pole. If your V8 runs as well as you describe why interfer with it for dubious financial returns?
 
Personally I think you have answered your own question in the first two lines of your post especially the bit, "....spare RR 4.6 HSE. That one has a knackerd engine!"

To go upsetting a perfectly happy 120k petrol engine I think would give you two of the above in quick time.

When you work out the proportions of cost against mpg there isn't much in it these days by going gas v petrol.

Opinion is probably 50/50 but personal experience of visiting the local breakers yard is that there are a lot of P38s lying around with a big spare tank in the boot - nearer 70/30%.
 
Also the fact that it costs about £2500 to get it done properly. That's 25 fill-ups on normal petrol. That'll last you at least 2 weeks!
 
Here we go again...

Well mine's up to 122000 miles now, more than 60k of which have been on lpg and it's still going strong.

I reckon if yer engine's going to slip a liner or whatever iit'll do it regardless of the fuel you use in it.

Guy
 
Like Kooky Guy, mine has just passed 125k and has done more than half of this on LPG ( according to the service records etc...) Appart from the usual P38 electrical gremlins, mine is running just fine (TOUCH WOOD)
 
I'm a firm believer in leaving things as they are designed. My 4.6 runs on petrol, as did the previous 3.9 Classic Vogue and 3.5 Disco.
Why didn't Land Rover offer a LPG option during the build??
I'm all for cheaper running costs but if or when the day comes that I can't afford to run it on petrol....off she goes.

Just look at the number of posts on here referring to LPG problems !!!!

So my advice is..leave it as it was intended...on petrol.
 
My father is an old school engineer who has worked on cars and land rover for years. He did a lpg conversion for a local farmer on a 2 1/4 petrol Series back in the seventies. He serviced that Landy year in year out and at every oil change the oil came out as clean as it went in. I know its not a Rangie but what does that tell you?
 
dubious financial returns?

I used to put £80 worth of petrol in before I went to gas. I now put in £40 of gas - do the math. It runs smoother, is quieter and the oil has been a lot cleaner.

A good front end sequential system is essential, I bet all those in the brakers are old style poorly adjusted mixer ring systems.

Also the fact that it costs about £2500 to get it done properly
Mine cost £1400 fully certified and setup (DIY install)

I have heard it wears the engine faster than petrol.
Only if you have a a badly setup lean running system which will cook your engine. The modern systems run off the O2 sensors so mixture is always spot on.
 
Personally I think you have answered your own question in the first two lines of your post especially the bit, "....spare RR 4.6 HSE. That one has a knackerd engine!"

To go upsetting a perfectly happy 120k petrol engine I think would give you two of the above in quick time.

When you work out the proportions of cost against mpg there isn't much in it these days by going gas v petrol.

Opinion is probably 50/50 but personal experience of visiting the local breakers yard is that there are a lot of P38s lying around with a big spare tank in the boot - nearer 70/30%.

why do people blame lpg for engine trible that is caused by poor maintenance regimes. you are talking out of your arse!!!

lpg burns very well in petrol engines, IF it is set correctly and the rest of the system is in good order.

the v8 block is weak, it can and will go regerdless of fuel used. its the design thats crap! any trouble with the coolant side of things can trigger liner slip. read up on it!!!!

most lpg issues can be solved with a service and reset up of the lpg system. using a bit of research and a little common sense a petrol engine can run perfectly well and possibly better than it does on petrol!!

Here we go again...

Well mine's up to 122000 miles now, more than 60k of which have been on lpg and it's still going strong.

I reckon if yer engine's going to slip a liner or whatever iit'll do it regardless of the fuel you use in it.

Guy

i agree, mine went at 165k due to a bit of garden hose used instead of proper coolant hose!

Like Kooky Guy, mine has just passed 125k and has done more than half of this on LPG ( according to the service records etc...) Appart from the usual P38 electrical gremlins, mine is running just fine (TOUCH WOOD)

mines at nearly 180k. it was converted in 2000 (its a 96) and has covered about 100k on lpg. (it is on its second block tho it had done 165 when it went)

I'm a firm believer in leaving things as they are designed. My 4.6 runs on petrol, as did the previous 3.9 Classic Vogue and 3.5 Disco.
Why didn't Land Rover offer a LPG option during the build??
I'm all for cheaper running costs but if or when the day comes that I can't afford to run it on petrol....off she goes.

Just look at the number of posts on here referring to LPG problems !!!!

So my advice is..leave it as it was intended...on petrol.

i like you john but i'm afraid if things were left as designed we'd still be chasing animals with lumps of wood (mebbe they still do round your way?) i can't agree with your comment. the reason landrover didn't offer lpg is b'cos not many people with 50k to spend on a car care about the planet or the mpg!!!

My father is an old school engineer who has worked on cars and land rover for years. He did a lpg conversion for a local farmer on a 2 1/4 petrol Series back in the seventies. He serviced that Landy year in year out and at every oil change the oil came out as clean as it went in. I know its not a Rangie but what does that tell you?

exactly good routine maintenance!!!

I used to put £80 worth of petrol in before I went to gas. I now put in £40 of gas - do the math. It runs smoother, is quieter and the oil has been a lot cleaner.

A good front end sequential system is essential, I bet all those in the brakers are old style poorly adjusted mixer ring systems.


Mine cost £1400 fully certified and setup (DIY install)


Only if you have a a badly setup lean running system which will cook your engine. The modern systems run off the O2 sensors so mixture is always spot on.


the modern systems simply plug in at various point to ensure they work with the car's ecu to achieve an almost exact same environment to petrol!!!

also a lean running petrol engine can self destruct!!!
 
Honest opinion on LPG. It is very good in fag lighters. It is also useful for burning leaves if you have a gas burner and is very good in barbecues. I find it very useful in the little stove i take fishing, for making fresh brews and bacon butties. It has a use as fuel in vehicles converted to run off it, but they generally don't run very well and the government will shortly ensure it costs the same as petrol.
 
Also the fact that it costs about £2500 to get it done properly. That's 25 fill-ups on normal petrol. That'll last you at least 2 weeks!

Mine cost £1400 fully installed and certified from Profess Autogas. They completed the install in a day (8am drop off, 8pm collect) and provided a free courtesy car for the day. They also included a post-install check 1 month later. They offer a 3 year guarantee on the parts and a 2 year on the workmanship. Annual servicing costs aroound £40.

If you happen to live/work local to them, you can also fill up from their tanks for a very competitve price. Last time I called for gas, they had a guy from Nottingham who'd broought his taxi down for an installation - he said that he'd been recomended by another taxi driver who'd had his 2 cars converted there.
 
thats says it all, what will you know if you cook on a gas bbq!!! and go fishing!!!

Nothing wrong with fishing. I have a large charcoal barbi thanks, but some do find a gas one more user friendly and cheaper to run. Having a gas barbi is a little like pretending to have a proper barbi, just like gas using Range Rovers pretending to be proper Range Rovers. :)
 
My 4.6 is on 192K with an ancient single point LPG system. Its still going strong, and is half the cost to run
 
Nothing wrong with fishing. I have a large charcoal barbi thanks, but some do find a gas one more user friendly and cheaper to run. Having a gas barbi is a little like pretending to have a proper barbi, just like gas using Range Rovers pretending to be proper Range Rovers. :)

no my friend, fishing is like standing in a bucket and trying to lift yourself with the handle, utterly pointless!!!

theres a point to running a rangey with lpg!!!:D:D:D:D:D:D
 
the point is a single one on mine and at 150k, no problems.

back in the 80's i was a mechanic for my local ambulance service and the whole fleet ran on lpg, they were mainly transit's with the essex v6 engine, the were a primative single point system, we fitted them and serviced them and they ran very well.

They eventually moved the fleet over to diesel, bet they are kicking themselves now with the fuel prices, i remember they had lpg tanks at the stations and hospitals, a very good setup and had a cheap supply of fuel.

i have to agree mine does run alot smoother and the plugs and oil are cleaner.

fishing, whats that all about!!!!!!
 
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Yup, just the same. This always happens when THAT question is asked. It's personal choice based on several factors. Be wary though that the more cars are run on lpg the more likelihood that it's price will creep up and up to match or overtake petrol -- kind of like diesel did a few years back when it was the fashionable economy fuel.
 
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