Hertfordshire Lanes?????

1) Did you drive the lane in the same direction as in my picture, as in the stream in on your left? YES
2) Is he before or after the tree? BEFORE
3) If he's before the tree anyone looking to recover him would have to reverse over that tree, even I haven't tried that. I'm not sure that would even be possible as there's a big bit of tree root that you drop off of on the way down, maybe with waffle boards. Reversing down with the drop behind you is certainly a sphincter moment. IT NEEDS FRONT RECOVERY WE THINK... I WOULDNT WANT TO REVERSE EITHER WAY DOWN THE LANE
4) How many wheels and which ones are off of the track and over the edge? TWO / ONE ISH... ITS AGAINST A TREE
5) I'm thinking if it's just one or two N/S wheels, the answer would be to jack it up on a hi-lift and push it sideways off of the jack to hopefully get the wheels back on the track, might take a few goes, with waffles ideally to stop it slipping back. SOUNDS POSSIBLE
6) The field IIRC is much higher up than the lane with a really steep bank. I'm not sure that a recovery from the field would be possible, unless there's a perfect gap in the trees and the bank isn't too steep. THERE IS A GAP IN THE TREES RIGHT WHERE WE HAVE SLIPPED OFF I THINK THE SLOPE UP IS DO-ABLE
7) Do not go into the field without permission. WE BELIEVE FROM LOCALS - THE LAND OWNER LIVES AT THE END OF THE LANE - THEY WERE OUT WHEN WE WENT TO VISIT EARLIER

BenjyP go ahead and pm me your number and location of the lane I can be there at 10am

PM it to me as well... if I can scrounge up some cash I'll come over to lend a hand...

Spydie... is there no rear recovery possible if he hasnt gone over the tree yet?

Cheers Guys -

Ryder... we can try rear recovery but the front end keeps getting caught behind the tree - waffle boards etc may help it from sliding down the bank

And the lane is slippy and it is a steep drop....

You'll see what we mean by the field being the best way out!

I must say I am amazed by the generosity of all you guys! Thanks to everyone here!!

Benjy,
I'd try jacking it and pushing it over sideways off of the jack first. Try and secure the other end of the car sideways to a tree on the right, so if you're jacking the back say, the front end doesn't slip more.

Recovery up the banking into the field would involve turning the car through almost 90 degrees. What you don't want to happen is start pulling the front around and the back end disappears over the edge. Waffles would be useful, I have 2 as does Jai. It's going to need some serious pulling power to do what you're thinking about, being stuck against a tree limits what can be done too.

Getting another vehicle in a position to help, ideally with a winch and snatch block is going to be tricky, not for the recovery itself, but afterwards. Either the Disco would have to reverse out of the lane or the recovery one reverse over that tree.

earliest I could be of any help with my motor is Saturday, assuming I can get the clutch sorted first thing. I'd ideally want Jai his motor with a working winch with me.

I think this could break Ryder's record, maybe a few tools and dismantle it bit by bit, get it out one peice at a time.

tdcist said:

I must say I am amazed by the generosity of all you guys! Thanks to everyone here!!

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don't thank anyone until you have weathered the storm of **** taking that will inevitably follow

and next time take some contact numbers

Spyderman said:

Benjy,
, maybe a few tools and dismantle it bit by bit, get it out one peice at a time.

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weren't that a country and western record way back when?

The Mad Hat Man said:

and next time take some contact numbers

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I told 'em Mr MHM I did sir! "Take the numbers" I says to 'em... did they take any notice? No sir they did not...

At least when I get stuck I takes the numbers!

Firstly i accept the **** taking - we should have stopped sooner or at least walked the lane first...

Secondly we shouldnt have really just gone in the one landy - I KNOW!!

Thirdly... i reckon the dismantling might just work.... however the bonnet is pointing at about a 45 degree angle to the field... more or less straight up in to it...

Those coming tomorrow can re-assess.... ive been stuck before but always got out... this is new having to leave her and go back with re-enforcements!!

i would't mind reversing around the tree it'll be a late one for sure'whenever it is! Need to hook up the winch don't know the lane which doesn't help but i'll do my best Jai p.s no waffle boards never used them in 3 years so swappded them for some other bits i needed

I've been looking at Spydies photo again. That hill is pretty steep to be pulling the motor up it... and as the front comes round (as said) the back will slip.

Ground anchor at the top of the hill, just to give support to the rear and backward 6 ft at a time..then move the anchor and start again... using the high lift is a good idea too. I take it someone IS taking a high lift?

Ryder said:

Spydie... is there no rear recovery possible if he hasnt gone over the tree yet?

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These pictures give a good idea of what we're dealing with, absolutely no room to maneovre and no room for error.





I really think the way forward is firstly to jack it up.

Does anyone have any recovery strops or other equipment I can borrow tomorrow morning? Luton is a bit far but may be only option?

Jack

jai_landrover said:

i would't mind reversing around the tree it'll be a late one for sure'whenever it is! Need to hook up the winch don't know the lane which doesn't help but i'll do my best Jai p.s no waffle boards never used them in 3 years so swappded them for some other bits i needed

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If I don't get there in the morning and you DO go in th evening then swing by and pick me up fella!

Ryder said:

I've been looking at Spydies photo again. That hill is pretty steep to be pulling the motor up it... and as the front comes round (as said) the back will slip.

Ground anchor at the top of the hill, just to give support to the rear and backward 6 ft at a time..then move the anchor and start again... using the high lift is a good idea too. I take it someone IS taking a high lift?

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I dont have a hi-lift...

and we are some way before the tree in the photo.... the hill up to the field is perhaps 2 foot high....

landroverjack said:

Does anyone have any recovery strops or other equipment I can borrow tomorrow morning? Luton is a bit far but may be only option?

Jack

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If you need to come this far then I have ropes n shackles n stuff. you are welcome to borrow them... may even be there meself

Also... we are at work in the evening so cant do much past 5pm... again, can be there the following morning till midday....

Ryder said:

If you need to come this far then I have ropes n shackles n stuff. you are welcome to borrow them... may even be there meself

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If you can help in the morning I can pick you up at 9ish and you and your shackles can take a ride with me in Thunderbird 7?

Better go get my camera batteries on charge...