Help please - diesel or petrol for towing?

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Hi all.
Nice to see all's well. Spent the weekend Kneeboarding with boat at Aberdovey and just taking in the sunshine, and then did some offroading and lamb rescue. Did we actually find out what the guy was going to buy?

Cheers, Nick.
 
A tug o war team out pulled a merc 6.0L supercharged. Seen it on Top gear so it must be true!

i saw that, rear wheel drive, not four wheel drive, id love to see them try against a r/r
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i have a lpg converted 4.6 p38, i havent towed anything with it yet but the gas conversion gives as good drivabilty as petrol, if you set your plug gaps right (smaller for gas) and indeed have the correct plugs for gas it runs a touch "crisper" than petrol.
 
RevJames; I'm just stunned; after propogating flame & personal insult; spouting FACTS that aren't.... you ultimately make this comment?!?!

Hey! Argument; lets get our four penneth in, eh! Lets go with the herd; repeat the 'majority opinion', becouse if enough people have the same opinion, it MUST be true, eh? Even if it ent, well, comfort in conforming, ent there?

You know, that's what the enviro-Mental-ists rely on to carry thier flawed doctrines; what the ramblers use to promote thier campagnes; what the church used in the medeivil era to exhert authority and what most dictators of the last century used to attain power.

I suggest opening your mind and closing your mouth a little more.

I am a V8 fan; but I do apreciate Deisils; but I am not blind to the faults of either.

As for Oil burners giving better 'ecconomy'.... well they give more MPG, granted; a chunk of which is not becouse of the calorific efficiency of the fuels combustion; petrol actually releases %-wise more of its energy when burned in an engine than diesil; or even the combustion efficiency.

Diesils simply give more heat from the same volume of fuel, burned under 'real' conditions, but mechanics of getting that heat to move wheels means that there is slightly increased operating efficiency, but more importantly, lower powered engine means driver cannot drive as inefficiently.

As for ecconomy; well, as was pointed out; miles per £, V8 on gas often equals or betters Deisil.

As for engine longevity; V8's will run to around 150-200 thousand miles pretty much without trouble; SOME oil burners can get to the 1/4 million mark, but then there are enough horror stories of blowers sucking sump oil through the bearings and shoving it into the manifolds making them run ungoverned until they pop; broken timing belts; mashed valves and other horrors; even at conservative mileages.

Again; 'Facts' dont support all the misconceptions and 'lore' over them.

But, if enough people repeat the same tripe...... well.... 'Every one knows.....' dont they?

No, a lot of people thinking of believing the same thing, doesn't make it tru or a fact.

Once upon a time, a LOT of people believed the world was flat; and they BURNED any-one who believed different as a heratic.........

Now, they just get 'flamed', on a forum that is supposed to be there to encourage the exchange of ideas and information, and provide 'enlightenment', so that such biggotry has less chance to exist in this world.

You dont care?

Maybe not; shame that you cared to comment though; bigger shame that you dont care to care.....

In this instance the topic is pretty fatiouse; types of engine; no particular impact on global peace; harmony or welfare.

But; It is worrying, that you in all liklihood would adopt the exact same approach to say; global warming; Al-Queda; US interferance in China...... or whatever, and blindly add your support to whatever was the majority or popular opinion, without question or qualm.


too many words and not enough questions answered... shut up or answer the question, this is not a bloody chatshow.

in answer to the original question; find a car you like the look of, that you like the way it drives and then simply check that it has at least around 200Nm of torque and you should be happy as larry. a CHIP will take a TD5 unit to around 275Nm which is buckets for towing horses, but i've heard chipping TD5s removes considerable amounts of refinement!
 
Well thanks all but now i'm more confused than ever !!! I feel like the v8 and the diesel are tied to my ankles and are about to let rip !!!!

Sounds like they could both do the job and I have to decide on the "best vehicle" and see what the engine is as a surprise !!

anybody got views on this arguement when it comes to a series II disco ?

tks all

Al
I currently run a 99T reg Disco II td5 ES7 and a 97P reg. P38 DT 2.5 6 cylinder BMW 4 speed auto. The TD5 is much better on accelleration (5 speed manual) and does an average of 33mpg up to 38 on a motorway run. The P38 is more sluggish on the pull away, but heavier as well, it pulls well at speed especially on the motorway and returns 26mpg average and up to 33 on a run. They both tow well and you only notice a slight drop in speed when towing a heavy eg. Ivor Williams 4wheeler with a tractor and plough on, on steep inclines. Going back to your original question, I would say the TD5 is a very good match for the V8 the difference in power is not that significant, but the difference between the P38 with the BMW 2.5 (indirect injection) engine and the larger 4.6 litre V8 petrol would be quite considerable.
 
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