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this has prob been done a million times but any way :rolleyes:

recently iv had a bit of agro with the heater , the temp clock flys up to the red in under half a mile ? yer the rad was cold, and the heater blows cold !
the top hose on the rad was warm, the bottom was cold, the two coming in to the heater were also cold,
sounds like a duff thermostat ! so fer the price of them, i went and got one, and a new gasket, so i thort i will wash the system out then change the stat and fill up with new anti freze,
lookin in the engine bay i noticed a green watery mix running down the bulkhead, looks in the footwell it was also a bit wet.
after further ****in about i noticed ther was a fairly good leak from the heater ,
so first job was top and bottom bolts out and heater unit out and in the workshop, then i made a quick bridging pipe to connect the two heater pipes so i can still drive the 90 with out the heater and keep it circulating
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box out ready for stripping
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looks to have been stripped a few times before, the last bloke dint seem too fussy !
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then i ripped all the foam out to get to the rivits
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then drilled the rivits out
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it all drops to bits quite nicely
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looks to have worn thru on the bit that supports it in the box as the foam want put back in the last time it was stripped,
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so a bit of a clean up with the wire wool and i soldered the hole up ,
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tomorrow i will test it with a bit of water and the air line with a tyre gauge to working pressure,
give it all a coat of hammerite, then get some foam padding and make a set of foams for it all,

got in thismornin and tested me repairs to the heater,
tip about 1.5 pints in the heater and cap off one end,
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stick the tyre inflator in and pressurise to test joints,
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nawt leaked to i sprayed it all with redoxide
( imagine its all painted red primer )
then i sprayed it black
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wile it were dryin , i changed the stat in the 90
simple 3 bolt change over, new gasket , new stat
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then it wer time to sort the foam out , so i called in an upholstery place and they sorted me out with a bit of dense foam, water proof kinda stuff,
it proved to be a pain in the arse to cut with a stanley knife so i fired the bandsaw up ! dead easy , nice and square cuts, no rough edges left :)
saved hours ;)
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then just a matter of gluing it all together again , i used evo stick , ( cause it smells nice )
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then the bits that hold the heater from wobbling i covered in heat tape, like yer use on gas flues etc, so the foam dint go stickey when hot and stink in the cab
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fit the rad back in
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insulate the hole round the pipes, as more wind is blow out there than the cab !
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put it all back together with new rivits
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then fit the round seal
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ready to go back in in the morning,

****ed about in the snow with the hoses, with the new stat in it its opening at running temp but not circulating the water, top hoses is hot, but full of air , botom hose is cold, rad waters cold , no pressure, top hoses from / to heater are red hot, copper tempory bridging piece took me skin off ,
looks one of two things now, blockage in either block or rad, or pumps not pumping, either shafts spinning, or impellors shot to **** !
 
Does the heater come out easy 'cause I want to do me 110 asap but dont want to tackle it in the cold in case it's a big job.
 
were you not tempted to put a second matrix in there while you had it all apart

basically chop another heater box up and stitch it to the existing - having joined the 2 matri up
 
very tidy mate! let us know how she performs when back in!
could be tempted to do the same with mine if it'll help clear the damn window a bit

cheers mate, hope it makes a bit of a differnce :rolleyes:

Does the heater come out easy 'cause I want to do me 110 asap but dont want to tackle it in the cold in case it's a big job.

simples ;) two bolts top, two bolts bottom, disconnect cables, pull off connector blocks, note positions , lift out complete unit bout 15 mins max

were you not tempted to put a second matrix in there while you had it all apart

basically chop another heater box up and stitch it to the existing - having joined the 2 matri up


would of been nice, yer got one spare ? i dumped one , but it were well beyond repair !

too late now its done, would of been nice i spose, realisticaly would it double the heat tho?
 
would of been nice, yer got one spare ? i dumped one , but it were well beyond repair !

too late now its done, would of been nice i spose, realisticaly would it double the heat tho?

nah doesn't double it but deffo makes a difference - trouble is this weather unless you hauling 3 ton up Shap your engine isn't going to be getting HOT, as opposed to warm
 
nah doesn't double it but deffo makes a difference - trouble is this weather unless you hauling 3 ton up Shap your engine isn't going to be getting HOT, as opposed to warm


even pullin a heavy trailer it dont ever get over half on the temp clock :rolleyes: ther just a cold engine i spose, i dunt like it too hot in the cab so will leave it as it is fer now, when i strip the bulkhead i might stick another in, that can wait tho
 
even pullin a heavy trailer it dont ever get over half on the temp clock :rolleyes: ther just a cold engine i spose, i dunt like it too hot in the cab so will leave it as it is fer now, when i strip the bulkhead i might stick another in, that can wait tho

yer if it's cold put a hat on, hats don't leak or get blocked
 
yer if it's cold put a hat on, hats don't leak or get blocked

yer right there ;)

thort about bringin a pipe in to the cab and bend it in to a long S like a mini towell radiator and mounting it on the dash ? ever been done? were gona make it out of 10 mm hydraulic copper pipe :rolleyes:
 
Nice job mate. But one tip for anyone else tempting this is not to fill it with water but just block one pipe off & put air into it .Then submerge it in water & this will find any pin hole leaks aswell. still a nice job mate not having a dig.
 
i were goin to do that me self, knoin the rest were ok , i jus pressure tested it to test the welds really, all seems ok as ther was no wet on any of it bar the leak !
 
tatted bout bit more today

still cold, system full, viscus fan always runs , so i took it off,
pump off wile i wer at it jus to clear up another prob ? was the shaft parting company with the impellor ?

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nope ;)

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took all the cowell off

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took the fan off fer winter now, bugger it

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heater box refitted , runs better with out fan, heats up quicker and now the heares repaired its nice and warm fer once :)

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were you not tempted to put a second matrix in there while you had it all apart

basically chop another heater box up and stitch it to the existing - having joined the 2 matri up

This has got me thinking:confused: Which way would you stick them together ? core to core or side by side ?
All they are is a small 2row radiator core with a baffles in .
would a copper core twice the size of the heater with brass tanks soldered on be much better do you think?;)
 
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