Grinding noise from beneath tunnel

Symptom:

When I change down (say from 4th to 3rd) and the engine is still revving high, I notice a grinding noise coming from somewhere in the tunnel beneath the gear stick, and it's getting worse. It sounds like a piece of metal spinning and grinding on something. Tonight, I just made it home as the noise worsened.

I heard a similar noise form my old Peugeot 205, which had to be scrapped because the clutch plate (the name of the part might be wrong) finally gave out and the gear box was ruined, or so the mechanic said at the time.

Anyone know what this new Landy problem might be? It couldn't come at a worse time as I was just about to sell it but now have to pay to get it repaired. Sod's law, hey.

3rd gear baulk ring ,but other stuff will be worn too

jamesmartin said:

3rd gear baulk ring ,but other stuff will be worn too

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Just to clarify, the noise occurs on all gears in high revs, and tonight it actually sounded like the spinning disk (or whatever it is) had something break away from it.

not when changing down then

jamesmartin said:

not when changing down then

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No. It's once you have changed down into any gear, or have just taken the foot off the accelerator in high revs whilst in gear, that the grinding noise occurs. Gear change and clutch bite seem fine though.

just when changing gear ie with clutch down?

blue beasty said:

just when changing gear ie with clutch down?

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The clutch is fully depressed. Actually, you don't need to change gear at all to hear the noise, you just need to rev high whilst in gear then take your foot off the accelerator. Does that help?

overrun you mean,id look at diff flanges see if theres play,then check t/box and work back to gear box

So NOT with the clutch depressed.......What d'you reckon James? Output bearings? Centre diff?

overrun i allways start with front diff then t/box outputs then intermediate gear

blue beasty said:

So NOT with the clutch depressed.......What d'you reckon James? Output bearings? Centre diff?

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My foot is completely off the clutch pedal at this point. The noise starts at high revs, then as the vehicle naturally slows down in gear (say if you're on a flat and not pressing the accelerator) the noise continues. There's definitely something spinning and grinding directly beneath the gear lever in the tunnel.

diff can sound like that try there first ,then dropping some oil out of t/box and g/box can help diagnose

jamesmartin said:

diff can sound like that try there first ,then dropping some oil out of t/box and g/box can help diagnose

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Thanks James. Will try that tomorrow.

Daft thought - hand brake sticking?

Sometimes (albeit I accept not that often), it can be the simple things

Station House said:

Daft thought - hand brake sticking?

Sometimes (albeit I accept not that often), it can be the simple things

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It may be, but I did have the handbrake repaired only last month, and the noise existed beforehand.

It was the flywheel that went on my old 205.

Bearing gone in the gearbox. Reconditioned gearbox being fitted now. Another £800. So far, the Landy has cost several thousand in repair bills in under a years worth of use. Astonishing.