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Hi,
I have a 1.8 freelander, it has just started to emit a big clunk noise when I
go fwd or reverse, symptoms would be like a brake seizing, but the wife says
the wheels don't appear to lock up.

The day before I noticed that there was a quieter clunking noise which did
speed up as I sped up etc, and when driving at 50 seemed a constant humm.

I'm open to suggestions and help.

a.t.b.

Ian


 
"shpeheard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
> I have a 1.8 freelander, it has just started to emit a big clunk noise
> when I
> go fwd or reverse, symptoms would be like a brake seizing, but the wife
> says
> the wheels don't appear to lock up.
>
> The day before I noticed that there was a quieter clunking noise which did
> speed up as I sped up etc, and when driving at 50 seemed a constant humm.
>
> I'm open to suggestions and help.
>
> a.t.b.
>
> Ian
>
>

Could it be the viscous coupling unit on it's way out? What age and mileage
is the car?


 
"Andy" <[email protected]> wrote:
>"shpeheard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Hi,
>> I have a 1.8 freelander, it has just started to emit a big clunk noise
>> when I
>> go fwd or reverse, symptoms would be like a brake seizing, but the wife
>> says
>> the wheels don't appear to lock up.
>>
>> The day before I noticed that there was a quieter clunking noise which did
>> speed up as I sped up etc, and when driving at 50 seemed a constant humm.
>>
>> I'm open to suggestions and help.
>>
>> a.t.b.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>
>
>Could it be the viscous coupling unit on it's way out? What age and mileage
>is the car?
>
>
year 2000 and theres 115,000 on the clock. Is there a way to check the coupling
?

thanks for the info

 

"shpeheard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
> I have a 1.8 freelander, it has just started to emit a big clunk noise
> when I
> go fwd or reverse, symptoms would be like a brake seizing, but the wife
> says
> the wheels don't appear to lock up.
>
> The day before I noticed that there was a quieter clunking noise which did
> speed up as I sped up etc, and when driving at 50 seemed a constant humm.
>
> I'm open to suggestions and help.
>
> a.t.b.
>
> Ian
>
>
Hi

Check the rear bushes on the diff housing, sounds like you've got a broken
one.

Nige


 
"Bear" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"shpeheard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Hi,
>> I have a 1.8 freelander, it has just started to emit a big clunk noise
>> when I
>> go fwd or reverse, symptoms would be like a brake seizing, but the wife
>> says
>> the wheels don't appear to lock up.
>>
>> The day before I noticed that there was a quieter clunking noise which did
>> speed up as I sped up etc, and when driving at 50 seemed a constant humm.
>>
>> I'm open to suggestions and help.
>>
>> a.t.b.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>
>Hi
>
>Check the rear bushes on the diff housing, sounds like you've got a broken
>one.
>
>Nige
>
>
Sorry forgot to mention, I replaced one at the front and side today, as I
suspected that to be the problem.

Had a look at the vc, the outer ring on the "balancer" is loose, but my guess
is there is a unit nearer the front of the driveshafts, just out from the
gearbox, I noticed signs of oil leakage. Dont know nit is though.

atb
Ian

 

"shepheard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Bear" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>"shpeheard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> Hi,
>>> I have a 1.8 freelander, it has just started to emit a big clunk noise
>>> when I
>>> go fwd or reverse, symptoms would be like a brake seizing, but the wife
>>> says
>>> the wheels don't appear to lock up.
>>>
>>> The day before I noticed that there was a quieter clunking noise which
>>> did
>>> speed up as I sped up etc, and when driving at 50 seemed a constant
>>> humm.
>>>
>>> I'm open to suggestions and help.
>>>
>>> a.t.b.
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>>
>>Hi
>>
>>Check the rear bushes on the diff housing, sounds like you've got a broken
>>one.
>>
>>Nige
>>
>>
> Sorry forgot to mention, I replaced one at the front and side today, as I
> suspected that to be the problem.
>
> Had a look at the vc, the outer ring on the "balancer" is loose, but my
> guess
> is there is a unit nearer the front of the driveshafts, just out from the
> gearbox, I noticed signs of oil leakage. Dont know nit is though.
>
> atb
> Ian
>
The unit you describe sounds like the i.r.d, these usually groaning, creaky
sound at low speed on full lock, and you'll get a crack going from forward,
then straight into reverse. If it is have a look at this link, this guy
describes the whole thing a lot better than I ever could.
http://www.thesysadmin.co.uk/hippo/fixes/index.html

The V.C is usually quite reliable, what's rear tyre wear like?

Nigel


 
"Bear" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"shepheard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> "Bear" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>"shpeheard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I have a 1.8 freelander, it has just started to emit a big clunk noise
>>>> when I
>>>> go fwd or reverse, symptoms would be like a brake seizing, but the wife
>>>> says
>>>> the wheels don't appear to lock up.
>>>>
>>>> The day before I noticed that there was a quieter clunking noise which
>>>> did
>>>> speed up as I sped up etc, and when driving at 50 seemed a constant
>>>> humm.
>>>>
>>>> I'm open to suggestions and help.
>>>>
>>>> a.t.b.
>>>>
>>>> Ian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Hi
>>>
>>>Check the rear bushes on the diff housing, sounds like you've got a broken
>>>one.
>>>
>>>Nige
>>>
>>>
>> Sorry forgot to mention, I replaced one at the front and side today, as I
>> suspected that to be the problem.
>>
>> Had a look at the vc, the outer ring on the "balancer" is loose, but my
>> guess
>> is there is a unit nearer the front of the driveshafts, just out from the
>> gearbox, I noticed signs of oil leakage. Dont know nit is though.
>>
>> atb
>> Ian
>>
>The unit you describe sounds like the i.r.d, these usually groaning, creaky
>sound at low speed on full lock, and you'll get a crack going from forward,
>then straight into reverse. If it is have a look at this link, this guy
>describes the whole thing a lot better than I ever could.
>http://www.thesysadmin.co.uk/hippo/fixes/index.html
>
>The V.C is usually quite reliable, what's rear tyre wear like?
>
>Nigel
>
>
Thanks for the info and link Nigel, Tyres are ok from when I remember checkling
recently. I reveresed the car out my drive and it made a loud clunk, and seemed
like a brake had locked on for a couple of seconds. It really sounds like the
IRD, and from reading the link sounds damn dear. I'll have a closer look
tomorrow morning, any known way to test, or is it better to remove and open up
to view.
atb
Ian

 

"shepheard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Bear" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>"shepheard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> "Bear" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>"shpeheard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I have a 1.8 freelander, it has just started to emit a big clunk noise
>>>>> when I
>>>>> go fwd or reverse, symptoms would be like a brake seizing, but the
>>>>> wife
>>>>> says
>>>>> the wheels don't appear to lock up.
>>>>>
>>>>> The day before I noticed that there was a quieter clunking noise which
>>>>> did
>>>>> speed up as I sped up etc, and when driving at 50 seemed a constant
>>>>> humm.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm open to suggestions and help.
>>>>>
>>>>> a.t.b.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Hi
>>>>
>>>>Check the rear bushes on the diff housing, sounds like you've got a
>>>>broken
>>>>one.
>>>>
>>>>Nige
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Sorry forgot to mention, I replaced one at the front and side today, as
>>> I
>>> suspected that to be the problem.
>>>
>>> Had a look at the vc, the outer ring on the "balancer" is loose, but my
>>> guess
>>> is there is a unit nearer the front of the driveshafts, just out from
>>> the
>>> gearbox, I noticed signs of oil leakage. Dont know nit is though.
>>>
>>> atb
>>> Ian
>>>
>>The unit you describe sounds like the i.r.d, these usually groaning,
>>creaky
>>sound at low speed on full lock, and you'll get a crack going from
>>forward,
>>then straight into reverse. If it is have a look at this link, this guy
>>describes the whole thing a lot better than I ever could.
>>http://www.thesysadmin.co.uk/hippo/fixes/index.html
>>
>>The V.C is usually quite reliable, what's rear tyre wear like?
>>
>>Nigel
>>
>>
> Thanks for the info and link Nigel, Tyres are ok from when I remember
> checkling
> recently. I reveresed the car out my drive and it made a loud clunk, and
> seemed
> like a brake had locked on for a couple of seconds. It really sounds like
> the
> IRD, and from reading the link sounds damn dear. I'll have a closer look
> tomorrow morning, any known way to test, or is it better to remove and
> open up
> to view.
> atb
> Ian
>
Sounds like the IRD, It's quite expensive, best thing to do, it have a look
on ebay, do a search for freelander ird, there's a few companies, offering
repair kit's or even exchange IRD's. Best thing is get it confirmed by a
dealer, before going to any expense.

If it's any consolation, mine's on it's way out too.

Nigel


 
Thans Nigel for your help,

best bet at this time seems to be to remove the unit tomorrow and have a look
at it to see if there is anything obvious internally. If so then its a repair
kit, if so then i'll need to hunt out a good assembly diagram to help me along.

What symptoms is yours displaying, mine has shown evidence of oil loss, and
only yesterday noise, then today real noise. Didn't seem to give much warning.

good talking to you

atb

Ian

 

"shepheard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thans Nigel for your help,
>
> best bet at this time seems to be to remove the unit tomorrow and have a
> look
> at it to see if there is anything obvious internally. If so then its a
> repair
> kit, if so then i'll need to hunt out a good assembly diagram to help me
> along.
>
> What symptoms is yours displaying, mine has shown evidence of oil loss,
> and
> only yesterday noise, then today real noise. Didn't seem to give much
> warning.
>
> good talking to you
>
> atb
>
> Ian
>
About the same as your's, got the clunk, not heavy, but with the groaning,
on full lock. and surprise, surprise, a weep of oil out of the pinion shaft
seal. Trying to put the job off, but I know the inevitable.

Let me know how you get on..


Regards

Nigel


 
"Bear" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"shepheard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Thans Nigel for your help,
>>
>> best bet at this time seems to be to remove the unit tomorrow and have a
>> look
>> at it to see if there is anything obvious internally. If so then its a
>> repair
>> kit, if so then i'll need to hunt out a good assembly diagram to help me
>> along.
>>
>> What symptoms is yours displaying, mine has shown evidence of oil loss,
>> and
>> only yesterday noise, then today real noise. Didn't seem to give much
>> warning.
>>
>> good talking to you
>>
>> atb
>>
>> Ian
>>
>About the same as your's, got the clunk, not heavy, but with the groaning,
>on full lock. and surprise, surprise, a weep of oil out of the pinion shaft
>seal. Trying to put the job off, but I know the inevitable.
>
>Let me know how you get on..
>
>
>Regards
>
>Nigel
>
>
Oh Yeah - leave me to be the guinea pig :-D
I have a workshop manual on cd, just about to see whats involved in removing
the IRD, so that I can have a closer look and see if there is any physical
damage. Had hoped someome would have posted things to look for or better still
and 10 pound bush replacement.
ok i'm away to plan a lift to work for this week, and order a large can of hand
cleaner.
If you want to mail direct change the ddot and you'll find me.
a.t.b.
Ian

 

Just a thought. When parking overnight after a wet journey, my TD4
rear brake shoes 'lock on' to the inside of the drum, and release with
a 'clonk' when the wheel first turns. Sometimes I have to engage
forward and then reverse in order to 'rock' the shoes free. Once they
ARE free, there's no further problem for the rest of the day.

I've stripped and greased what CAN be greased, but with no lasting
effect. I guess there's rust forming on the inside of the drum (I live
down a muddy lane, and there's always filth flying around in wet
weather).

This may not be what's happening in this particular case, but I'll
throw it in for what it's worth.

GRAEME ALDOUS
Yorkshire

 
Thats the problem isn't it, you buy some precios new item like a freelander
and worry about every untoward noise, whereas I struggle on with a vintage
series, and if it didn't make peculiar noises I would be worried.

I don't know about the long term durability of Freelanders and the amount of
abuse they can stand and still be serviceable, but even when I get some
horrible noise out of my series (which indicates something is wrong for
sure) I can still get some mileage out of it to get me home..

I suppose this all comes from never having owned any car from new, and
everything I have owned as a consequence being well worn in.


--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes


"shpeheard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
> I have a 1.8 freelander, it has just started to emit a big clunk noise
when I
> go fwd or reverse, symptoms would be like a brake seizing, but the wife
says
> the wheels don't appear to lock up.
>
> The day before I noticed that there was a quieter clunking noise which did
> speed up as I sped up etc, and when driving at 50 seemed a constant humm.
>
> I'm open to suggestions and help.
>
> a.t.b.
>
> Ian
>
>


 
On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 21:16:33 +0100, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

> ...
> I suppose this all comes from never having owned any car from new, and
> everything I have owned as a consequence being well worn in.

yet - in some cases it's a fine line between worn-in & worn-out

--
William Tasso

110 V8
 
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