Fog lamps in front bumper

Have been looking through the threads on fog lights and had a lot of time to think while driving almost blind across a foggy france... won't bore you with details but my conclusion is that if the defender is going to have fog lights low enough to be useful while still protected somewhat from where defenders end up going, then the front bumper installs seem best.

Trouble is have looked at a load of bumpers that come with various fog and drl lights fitted, and others to insert into a bumper... but none seem to have any specs?

Anybody have / had any descent ones? what is the basic level of foglightery ???

from a wiring perspective was going to use the same switch as the rear fog light (which really needs replacing...) in case by some miracle there is a dual switch that let's you do both on one switch???

cborrman said:

from a wiring perspective was going to use the same switch as the rear fog light (which really needs replacing...) in case by some miracle there is a dual switch that let's you do both on one switch???

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It depends what age defender you have and what switch it is fitted with. I am familiar with the two styles of older models.
If it is the steering column switch similar to the headlight switch there is no dual option.
If it is the rocker switch down by your right knee there are three way switches avaible similar to the one used for the interior/dash lights. You could use one of those to do both front and rear.

dag019 said:

It depends what age defender you have and what switch it is fitted with. I am familiar with the two styles of older models.
If it is the steering column switch similar to the headlight switch there is no dual option.
If it is the rocker switch down by your right knee there are three way switches avaible similar to the one used for the interior/dash lights. You could use one of those to do both front and rear.

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ah, yes, that would help, mine is a 300tdi, its in the cluster of three (rear window heater, fog light and hazzards that can never be found quickly when needed )

Yes I know the ones you are talking about. On older models which have the steering column mounted fog light switch the three switches are hazzard, rear window, and a three position switch which controls the dash lights and interior light. You could use one of these to switch both front and rear fog lights. I am not sure how you would wire it up without looking at the wiring diagrams. But it would look “factory” and use the correct style switch rather than needing to add and additional switch somewhere else. The only downside is the little picture on the switch will not be a fog light.

dag019 said:

Yes I know the ones you are talking about. On older models which have the steering column mounted fog light switch the three switches are hazzard, rear window, and a three position switch which controls the dash lights and interior light. You could use one of these to switch both front and rear fog lights. I am not sure how you would wire it up without looking at the wiring diagrams. But it would look “factory” and use the correct style switch rather than needing to add and additional switch somewhere else. The only downside is the little picture on the switch will not be a fog light.

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ah ok thx; I could take a dremel to the picture on the new switch and make the picture all foggy... it may take a while to catch on lol... thinking about it I cannot think why I would only want the front or rear fogs on their own so may just wire both in one

cborrman said:

ah ok thx; I could take a dremel to the picture on the new switch and make the picture all foggy... it may take a while to catch on lol... thinking about it I cannot think why I would only want the front or rear fogs on their own so may just wire both in one

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You need them to switch separately so you can drive around with the front fogs on all of the time regardless of the weather. It’s the only way to fit in with modern drivers, you need to blind oncoming traffic to assert your dominance. If they were both on the same witch you would blind the people behind you as well, and you don’t want that, you need them to see you in front of them so they can recognise your superiority

dag019 said:

You need them to switch separately so you can drive around with the front fogs on all of the time regardless of the weather. It’s the only way to fit in with modern drivers, you need to blind oncoming traffic to assert your dominance. If they were both on the same witch you would blind the people behind you as well, and you don’t want that, you need them to see you in front of them so they can recognise your superiority

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lol, I did that with a car when I was still in idiot period because I thought it looked cool; fortunately the police pulled me over and said “it does not seem very foggy to us, does it to you for any reason we may need to know about” lol - never did that again!

dag019 said:

You need them to switch separately so you can drive around with the front fogs on all of the time regardless of the weather. It’s the only way to fit in with modern drivers, you need to blind oncoming traffic to assert your dominance. If they were both on the same witch you would blind the people behind you as well, and you don’t want that, you need them to see you in front of them so they can recognise your superiority

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Dont they call them driving lamps ?

You need to be able to switch the front fig lights on independently of the rear one. On mine, I had an empty round hole (where the choke cable would go on a petrol) on the right of the steering column cover- there's usually a rubber bung in it. It's the right size for a standard toggle switch and works well as it's close to the rear fog switch.