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Fitting new front fog lights.

Discussion in 'General Land Rover Forum' started by David S, Nov 25, 2012.

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  1. David S

    David S New Member

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    I own a 2008 Defender and would like to fit fog lights,do I need new wiring, or is the existing wiring loom designed for the purpose?
     
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    On a Defender, there is no factory-fitted wiring for front fog (or driving) lamps, it has to be added.


    There is a Land Rover 'Auxiliary Wiring' Accessory Kit (STC53208), Installation Instructions here - http://topix.landrover.jlrext.com/topix/service/document/70573



    Or, if you're capable of it, you can make-up a loom and install it yourself, from cable, sleeving, connectors, etc..., bought from an Auto-Electrical specialist., such as -

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    The Genuine switch (as included in STC53208) is available separately from Land Rover, as part number YUG000540LNF

    The connector to fit the switch is available from a couple of sources (including me ;))


    BUT... YUG000540LNF is an earth-switching switch, which must be wired as Land Rover intended, if you want the switch's night-time and 'tell-tale' illumination to work properly.


    This diagram shows it being used for front driving lamps, which can only be used with main beam.

    To use it for fog lamps, you would take the feed to terminal 86 on the relay, from the sidelights, instead of the main beam warning lamp.

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    If you get one of these DRL light bumpers, https://www.powerfuluk.com/land-rover-defender-front-bumper-led-drl-square-type.html which come with a wiring harness to plug into side light feed- could you wire it into the rear fog lamp feed instead of side light feed? I see lot’s of people commenting on wanting separate front and back fog lights, but with the fog I drive in, I want to be able to see as well as be seen so am very simple in that respect: is their fog? then fog lights lol
     
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    Do you really need them?
    I've driven with front fog lights and the difference is hardly noticeable.
    Just a way to earn money as an optional fashion accessory.
    Then there is the drivers who have them on all day trying to mimmic DRL's.
    And to make matters worse they then leave them on at night too. Dazzling everyone in a narsissistic way.
    I'm pretty sure it is illegal to drive with front or rear fog lights on unless visibility is less than 100 metres (rule 236)
    Okay, bug bear of mine rant over.
    Greatest respect to you all
     
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    hahahaha - yeah people who have them on during the day should be stopped by the police and made to put their genitals on the hopefully hot lamps... sadly some may like that...

    Fog lamps make a huge difference on lower down cars, as they are low and you do not get the reflection - which is my main problem
    with the defender and fog now on motorways when you have a ferry to catch and been forced to “miss the boat slow”, in Wales trying to get to where you are staying before last orders, and been in grave danger of a dry evening () and on windy country roads early in the morning / late at night not being able to see jack as the lights on the defender are so high up they just reflect the light back.

    you almost need to get the reverse of pop-up lights and have them as pop-down lights to get them even low when not offroad lol
     
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    Most front fog lamps are pretty useless. It's why manufacturers started removing them and putting DRLs in the same positions.

    The question is, do you actually want fog lamps or extra high-beam spotlamps? The two are very different.
     
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    Why is that - is the front bumper on a defender still too high for an effective fog light? or is it because they were budget chinese crap?
     
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    In thick ‘pea soup’ correctly positioned front fog lamps work very well at nighttime instead of dip beam which gives flare, unfortunately nowadays even in daylight fogs and dip beams are also switch on by some drivers, I don’t know what they expect, so it’s foggy I must have fog lights on, the same driver that have the rear fog on in stop start traffic, even going through tunnels :(
    Fogs are usually install below the bumper as the factory fitted items on my disco (which I’ve never used fortunately), although my old RR had factory fitted spots below the bumper :(

    If u need more light when using main beam then driving lamps are best, they have a good range in distance plus width, which spots with their pencil beam don’t.
     

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    FOUND USING YELLOW HALOGEN HEAD LIGHT BULBS BEST FOR FOG
     
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    dieseldog69 Well-Known Member LZIR Despatch Agent

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    Yes, the white light reflects off the water droplets and creates a white out, the yellow pierces the fog for reasons of which I have long forgotted lol
     
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    found the modern white /blue lights also useless on unlit roads the light seemed to disperse rather badly shortening the viewing range than when used on normal lit roads
     
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    I've found the modern LED dips are very good at cutting through fog, as there's no light bleed above the dip cut off. Main beams on the other hand simply blind you, as all the light bounces back at the driver.
     
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