Engine choice - please help!

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Tim Hi,

if you decide you do not need the 3.9 Efi engine I may be interested for it
provided it comes complete with all bits like radiator, wiring loom, air
filter housing etc.

Take care
Pantelis Giamarellos
LAND ROVER CLUB OF GREECE

"Tom Woods" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 10:47:37 +0100, Tim Hobbs
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I had a long chat with Warren yesterday about my plans to pull the
> >Discovery apart and use various bits in my Series 2. Now I'm really
> >spoilt for choice.
> >
> >The options are
> >
> >i) fit my 3.9, convert my R380 to long stick and swap the axles, plus
> >some kind of coil conversion to the chassis (it's a brand new
> >galvanised chassis on the S2)
> >
> >ii) fit 3.9 to existing gearbox, use the Disco diffs to up the ratios
> >in the axles and fit good parabolics.
> >
> >These two both require varying degrees of chassis mods and lots of
> >work, including wiring loom, engine mounts, front panel moving,
> >steering changes to accommodate the CV jointed hubs etc.
> >
> >iii) fit a 200TDi which is currently on offer, again with Disco diffs.
> >The engine is known good, but very high miles. And it's diesel.
> >
> >iv) fit a new 2.5 Turner Engineering petrol engine. Drops in and with
> >a good carb setup should be substantially better than the 3 bearing
> >2.25 petrol with minimal compression that is currently in there.
> >
> >I don't really want to lose the look of the S2, nor do I want to
> >butcher it and go to coils. If I'm doing that I might as well torch a
> >write-off Rangie and put the Series body and my powertrain on it.
> >
> >So current favourite looks like the Turner engine (or equivalent from
> >LEGS or whoever). Anyone got any experience with their full engines?
> >
> >I don't know what I'm asking here really - just for opinions I
> >suppose!

>
> The 2.5 petrol would indeed be the least amount of work with it being
> a striaght swap, and that does make it sound pretty appealing. More
> expensive though since you dont have that engine already.
>
> However, is it that much work to fit a 200tdi? Will a 200tdi mate
> straight onto a standard gearbox?. The series box is the same pattern
> as the LT77 (as fitted to 90's). If it does fit then that engine
> becomes a nice simple option. More economical than a 2.5 and similar
> performance (if not better?).
>
> My mate has just put an automotive 2.5 petrol (or maybe its a 2.8?) in
> his S3. It shifts pretty well now! He's got fancy cams and carbs and
> exhaust too, and i think it should now be more powerful than a
> standard v8 (and was a lot less work to put in).
>
> He also put in a 5 speed 90 gearbox. Seems so much nicer than a
> standard series box!. Makes it seem a lot more refined. I think that
> the next item on the list of nice improvements for my own landy would
> be a 5 speed box. even before a new engine. (fairly straight forward
> to fit too, ignoring the permanent 4x4 issues)
>
> What are you aiming at with your series?. Do you just want to make it
> run, or do you want to improve it some more?
> I've used mine as my everyday vehicle, and think that a better gearbox
> would make it a lot nicer to drive (so i'd choose one of your options
> that involved a gearbox swap, or add one using an LT77). I also prefer
> the economy of the diesel engine, so would be tempted by the 200tdi.
>



 
On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 18:45:25 +0100, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On or around Sun, 25 Jul 2004 10:47:37 +0100, Tim Hobbs
><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>mean to say go with the 2.5 in the series, unless you fancy one of those 2.8
>conversions, and can afford it - alleged to give V8-style power/torque.


Where are these 2.8 engines? I know about the 2.8 variant of the
300TDi, but didn't realise there was a petrol option.

Warren reckons I should fetch £1500 at least for the engine and
transmission. It is just rebuilt with new cams, lifters etc and it is
very clean indeed for a 130,000 mile unit. A good advert for proper
servicing I guess!

To answer Tom's point, I've been giving the 'what do I want from this
truck' question some thought. I originally fancied a big, powerful
V8, but I think that would probably be a horrible mess without coils
and good brakes and handling kit etc. So now I think I want a decent,
modernised S2, still true to the overall look and philosophy. So good
engine on good chassis, followed by disk brake conversion, PAS
conversion etc in due course.


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Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'95 Discovery V8i aka "The Disco" (FOR SALE)
'03 Volvo V70

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On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 21:13:45 +0100, Tim Hobbs
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 18:45:25 +0100, Austin Shackles
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On or around Sun, 25 Jul 2004 10:47:37 +0100, Tim Hobbs
>><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>mean to say go with the 2.5 in the series, unless you fancy one of those 2.8
>>conversions, and can afford it - alleged to give V8-style power/torque.

>
>Where are these 2.8 engines? I know about the 2.8 variant of the
>300TDi, but didn't realise there was a petrol option.


Automotive sell them. Thats the one my mate has that i mentioned in my
post. http://www.automotivecomp.com/landrover_perf.html 'Power plus
2.8 engine' about 2/3rds of the way down that page. I cant find a
price for it though, but i think a couple of grand would be about it.

They reckon 117bhp. comes with their fancy SU carb and manifold and
fancy cam on it too. This is more power than the v8 in the 101 isnt
it?

>To answer Tom's point, I've been giving the 'what do I want from this
>truck' question some thought. I originally fancied a big, powerful
>V8, but I think that would probably be a horrible mess without coils
>and good brakes and handling kit etc. So now I think I want a decent,
>modernised S2, still true to the overall look and philosophy. So good
>engine on good chassis, followed by disk brake conversion, PAS
>conversion etc in due course.


Sounds like the start of a plan!. Kinda what i've been trying to do
with mine. I've just put a servo and LWB front brakes on and it now
stops better than my car, which is nice!

 
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