EAS - Harsh Ride - Calibration?

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Just set myself up to do my calibration this afternoon but don't seems to have a COM port on either of my laptops that fits with the plug. mmm didn't even think to check that before i ordered the cable. Is there a connector available from Maplins? that will integrate it to these laptops which are both relatively new (HP and Samsung)??
 
Warmers spitting your toys does not endear to helping others!
As I have already said I have been tuning and developing the eas system for over 13 years and in that time even with a badly calibrated system a harsh ride ie rarely contributed to the calibration issue!
Having all the computer technology and testers most of the time means going for the tester over actualy looking at the mechanical components which is a coman problem I come up against I get emails on phone calls from people seeking help because they have used tester to read ecu and think all the faults are the problem but as you are aware the fault is the effect not the cause

If you are look for a problem it is always best to set mean as your start point. Then you know where your going, i told him to do this. The poster asked about a problem, i gave him an answer. Then he came back with the pressure is the same at all height settings tripe. Well if he knows so much, let him sort it out then.
 
Just set myself up to do my calibration this afternoon but don't seems to have a COM port on either of my laptops that fits with the plug. mmm didn't even think to check that before i ordered the cable. Is there a connector available from Maplins? that will integrate it to these laptops which are both relatively new (HP and Samsung)??

You need a USB to serial adaptor, Maplin do them, make sure it has drivers for your operating sytem.
 
If you are look for a problem it is always best to set mean as your start point. Then you know where your going, i told him to do this. The poster asked about a problem, i gave him an answer. Then he came back with the pressure is the same at all height settings tripe. Well if he knows so much, let him sort it out then.

Valid point but as the system is working i would class this as a point to start from and he has not noticed it sitting unevenly, rather than calibrating to find he still has an issue and if it is a sensor or bag/bags then needing to recal again
 
Valid point but as the system is working i would class this as a point to start from and he has not noticed it sitting unevenly, rather than calibrating to find he still has an issue and if it is a sensor or bag/bags then needing to recal again

No need to re-cal after changing airbags if it's done right, only after changing a sensor:)
 
No need to re-cal after changing airbags if it's done right, only after changing a sensor:)

Correct Keith, there is no need to calibrate after changing air bags. Only after sensor change. Think we have someone who does not know as much about EAS as he makes out. I say again, set standard to correct height and work from that. Set too high, particularily arse end will give a harsher ride. The suspension works against the resistance of pressurised air, more pressure more resistance. Simples.
 
There you are wrong!
As the bags can again effect the ride as you should know
Also as the new bags are more pliable this has and will give you a different height to that which was stored on the older bags
Further more I take it you would not calibrate if you had a gas conversion fitted tool?
And also you would not calibrate with a full tank of fuel and the tyre set at the correct pressure too?
Unlike you I will agree to disagree rather than spit my dummy out
 
There you are wrong!
As the bags can again effect the ride as you should know
Also as the new bags are more pliable this has and will give you a different height to that which was stored on the older bags
Further more I take it you would not calibrate if you had a gas conversion fitted tool?
And also you would not calibrate with a full tank of fuel and the tyre set at the correct pressure too?
Unlike you I will agree to disagree rather than spit my dummy out


The ride height sensors control the height, nothing at all to do with air bags. They are just inflated old or new until the sensor reaches it's preset reading. No i would not recallibrate after fitting gas as the vehicle will automatically compensate for the additional weight. Just as it does when you put a bag of cement in the boot. Likewise with the fuel. You even more obviously with those statements have not got a bloody clue what you are talking about. You are talking absolute tripe.
 
The ride height sensors control the height, nothing at all to do with air bags. They are just inflated old or new until the sensor reaches it's preset reading. No i would not recallibrate after fitting gas as the vehicle will automatically compensate for the additional weight. Just as it does when you put a bag of cement in the boot. Likewise with the fuel. You even more obviously with those statements have not got a bloody clue what you are talking about. You are talking absolute tripe.

Absolutely right as usual Tony, the mans talking out of his anal orrifice:rolleyes:
 
very big words from the two of you!
you see what it comes down to is working with a system you understand the problems and the issues that arise from modifications if you calibrate the system with the full tank of petrol and gas it will always consider it to be the norm thus not making the system belive it is carrying an unessisary load.
point 2 fit a set of nes bags alround then see the reading they do change and alter the ride heights
point 3 i recalibrate the system on mine every 2 years to compensate for wear on the height sensors

but why do i continue down a route of trying to prove myself to you pair?
if my customers very unhappy they would say so! so you do it your way and i will do mine obiously playing with your own motors is all you do so you never see other faults?
closed minds and closed routes of diagnosys
 
very big words from the two of you!
you see what it comes down to is working with a system you understand the problems and the issues that arise from modifications if you calibrate the system with the full tank of petrol and gas it will always consider it to be the norm thus not making the system belive it is carrying an unessisary load.
point 2 fit a set of nes bags alround then see the reading they do change and alter the ride heights
point 3 i recalibrate the system on mine every 2 years to compensate for wear on the height sensors

but why do i continue down a route of trying to prove myself to you pair?
if my customers very unhappy they would say so! so you do it your way and i will do mine obiously playing with your own motors is all you do so you never see other faults?
closed minds and closed routes of diagnosys
I don't appreciate these comments. I have agreed with you several times, but you still don't seem to be taking my point. I have every intention of checking & replacing any / all suspension components which need so doing. But why not calibrate first?
 
To be honest i for one don't give a **** anymore. You ask for advice get it then ignore it. Do what you want.:mad::mad::mad:

As i said suspension set too high, too much pressure, harsh ride. It really ****es me off when people ask for advice, then when given it start arguing the toss. If they are so bloody smart why ask.

If you are look for a problem it is always best to set mean as your start point. Then you know where your going, i told him to do this. The poster asked about a problem, i gave him an answer. Then he came back with the pressure is the same at all height settings tripe. Well if he knows so much, let him sort it out then.
Woah, hold on a second. I appreciate your advice, agreed with it and thanked you. I just didn't agree with the theory about pressure vs height, but it was all friendly debate. I'm saddened that I've engendered such a response.

I had, and still have, every intention of taking on board each and every piece of advice offered to me, which has been gratefully received. I really don't think I did or said anything to deserve these comments.
 
Woah, hold on a second. I appreciate your advice, agreed with it and thanked you. I just didn't agree with the theory about pressure vs height, but it was all friendly debate. I'm saddened that I've engendered such a response.

I had, and still have, every intention of taking on board each and every piece of advice offered to me, which has been gratefully received. I really don't think I did or said anything to deserve these comments.

The latest answers have naught to do with anything you have said. If someone talks rubbish they will be told so. :):):)
 
very big words from the two of you!
you see what it comes down to is working with a system you understand the problems and the issues that arise from modifications if you calibrate the system with the full tank of petrol and gas it will always consider it to be the norm thus not making the system belive it is carrying an unessisary load.
point 2 fit a set of nes bags alround then see the reading they do change and alter the ride heights
point 3 i recalibrate the system on mine every 2 years to compensate for wear on the height sensors

but why do i continue down a route of trying to prove myself to you pair?
if my customers very unhappy they would say so! so you do it your way and i will do mine obiously playing with your own motors is all you do so you never see other faults?
closed minds and closed routes of diagnosys

I'll try that next time i do mine. Can't afford a full tank. Will a 158 lb weight do instead? It won't make the slightest difference to the calibration. Your customers must love you "Yes come in tomorrow for calibration, It'll be £60.00 and don't forget to put £130.00 of fuel in it." Come on man get real.
 
But those three quotes were directed at me, the OP?

Yes they were because you asked a question. You were given figures and settings by me. You then came back and said your standard height was too high. You were then advised to recalibrate it and return it to standard to see if that helped. It was explainsd to you why it may help, the higher the springs are set the more the rate changes (the harder they get) you seemed not to agree with that. So i suggested that if you know so much about it why ask for advice in the first place. Just get it sorted.
 
Yes they were because you asked a question. You were given figures and settings by me. You then came back and said your standard height was too high. You were then advised to recalibrate it and return it to standard to see if that helped. It was explainsd to you why it may help, the higher the springs are set the more the rate changes (the harder they get) you seemed not to agree with that. So i suggested that if you know so much about it why ask for advice in the first place. Just get it sorted.
I asked a question about something I didn't know; Whether or not I should re-calibrate based on the height measurements I'd taken. You answered that, I accepted that answer, and appreciated it.

I didn't completely agree with the theory surrounding pressure vs height, but never claimed to know more about it - I just couldn't wrap my head around it based on my (freely admittedly limited) knowledge of physics. I never questioned your response to my original post, nor was it my intention to come across as already knowing everything about it, as I certainly don't believe I do.

I enjoy debating things - if I believe a theory and others differ with that opinion, then I challenge it in a rational, friendly manner. If at any point I came across otherwise, please know that was never my intent.

Reading back through my own posts, I honestly don't believe I deserved some of the responses I got.
 
I asked a question about something I didn't know; Whether or not I should re-calibrate based on the height measurements I'd taken. You answered that, I accepted that answer, and appreciated it.

I didn't completely agree with the theory surrounding pressure vs height, but never claimed to know more about it - I just couldn't wrap my head around it based on my (freely admittedly limited) knowledge of physics. I never questioned your response to my original post, nor was it my intention to come across as already knowing everything about it, as I certainly don't believe I do.

I enjoy debating things - if I believe a theory and others differ with that opinion, then I challenge it in a rational, friendly manner. If at any point I came across otherwise, please know that was never my intent.

Reading back through my own posts, I honestly don't believe I deserved some of the responses I got.

Ok point taken maybe i should not have reacted that way. Anyway did you set it to standard and what happened? You may assist your problem by knocking the pressures down in the rear tyres a little. If you drive alone most of the time 38 is too much.
 
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