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LEE68 · Oct 15, 2012

hi guys,wonder if im missing something,when my p38 dse is parked up all day at work,i start it up,select drive,release the handbrake,press the throttle and.......nothing! well not quite as bad as that but with my foot to the floor it feels like im trying to pull a barn,its worse in reverse and its fine once its started to move,any advice is appreciated.

Datatek · Oct 15, 2012

Checked/changed the oil & filter lately? Should be done every 24K. If the oil is clean and the level is correct, try some Lucas Transmission Fix.

LEE68 · Oct 15, 2012

level is fine and oil is clean,oil and filter was changed 12000m ago,i'll try the transmission fix,especially as ive found it to be a bit sluggish to change up recently,thanks for the reply.

Datatek · Oct 15, 2012

LEE68 said:
level is fine and oil is clean,oil and filter was changed 12000m ago,i'll try the transmission fix,especially as ive found it to be a bit sluggish to change up recently,thanks for the reply.

You did check the level cold with the engine idling and after running through the gears?

SteveRover · Oct 15, 2012

I have a P38 that at times does similar - in my case it's a sticking hand brake. If it initially shows resistance in one direction, a few inches the other way releases it.

Steve

Bix · Oct 15, 2012

LEE68 said:
level is fine and oil is clean,oil and filter was changed 12000m ago,i'll try the transmission fix,especially as ive found it to be a bit sluggish to change up recently,thanks for the reply.

12,000 miles ago? You're well due for another service.

I had a similar issue with my P38, it was resolved by replacing the diff oil. It was like tar in there and required quite a lot of cleaning to get it all out.

Grit Valve · Oct 15, 2012

As suggested above lee put in Neutral lift rear wheels release hand brake after chocking front wheels and check they spin freely and hand brake has released for simple test

LEE68 · Oct 15, 2012

Thanks for the replies,my hand brake is at full lift also as stupid as it sounds I don't live or work near any level ground the nearest place ironically is a halfords about a mile away,is this too far to be able to check the oil,if not how long should I wait for it to cool down?

Datatek · Oct 16, 2012

defender300td1 said:
As suggested above lee put in Neutral lift rear wheels release hand brake after chocking front wheels and check they spin freely and hand brake has released for simple test

If you lift both rear wheels they will spin even with the handbrake full on that's what a diff does, unless you mean put it in gear with the engine running which would be dangerous as the VCU would lock and propel it forward.

Grit Valve · Oct 16, 2012

Datatek said:
If you lift both rear wheels they will spin even with the handbrake full on that's what a diff does, unless you mean put it in gear with the engine running which would be dangerous as the VCU would lock and propel it forward.

Ok smart arse a rear wheel with hands hand brake=drum =propshaft who said anything about starting it go play with your radio

Datatek · Oct 16, 2012

defender300td1 said:
Ok smart arse a rear wheel with hands hand brake=drum =propshaft who said anything about starting it go play with your radio

Perhaps you make things clear when you write? No point in misleading folks.

wammers · Oct 16, 2012

Datatek said:
Perhaps you make things clear when you write? No point in misleading folks.

Think someone is under the impression that if you lift a rear wheel and release the handbrake you can easily turn the rear prop shaft. Well unless the transfer box is in neutral or a front wheel is also off the ground you can't.

StuckAgainSteve · Oct 16, 2012

You chaps should have a good wrestle - get rid of all that aggression!

wammers · Oct 16, 2012

StuckAgainSteve said:
You chaps should have a good wrestle - get rid of all that aggression!

No aggression, there is no point in posting something that is misleading. If you don't know, don't guess. Simples.

Grit Valve · Oct 16, 2012

wammers said:
Think someone is under the impression that if you lift a rear wheel and release the handbrake you can easily turn the rear prop shaft. Well unless the transfer box is in neutral or a front wheel is also off the ground you can't.

Data/ wammers

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. I must say I'm disappointed in you both maybe I should explain better for those that don't know that I guess even includes yourselfs .

The object of my excersise was to see if the hand brake drum was binding, now before I begin you really must get out of your seats and books,giving the workings of transmissions via dialog ...,

If you jack up one rear wheel only take the hand brake off with a front wheel Chocked and put the gear selector in Neutral.
By turning the back wheel back and fourth there is enough slack in the transmission to watch the hand brake drum moving ( the object ) with no need to wast your time jacking the front . When was the last time you got under your car and off the computer ?????

Datatek · Oct 16, 2012

defender300td1 said:
Data/ wammers

. I must say I'm disappointed in you both maybe I should explain better for those that don't know that I guess even includes yourselfs .

The object of my excersise was to see if the hand brake drum was binding, now before I begin you really must get out of your seats and books,giving the workings of transmissions via dialog ...,

If you jack up one rear wheel only take the hand brake off with a front wheel Chocked and put the gear selector in Neutral.
By turning the back wheel back and fourth there is enough slack in the transmission to watch the hand brake drum moving ( the object ) with no need to wast your time jacking the front . When was the last time you got under your car and off the computer ?????

But what you actually said was jack the back wheels, plural

Grit Valve · Oct 16, 2012

Datatek said:
But what you actually said was jack the back wheels, plural

Still amount. to the same objective than can be achieved more slack with both up

wammers · Oct 16, 2012

defender300td1 said:
Data/ wammers

. I must say I'm disappointed in you both maybe I should explain better for those that don't know that I guess even includes yourselfs .

The object of my excersise was to see if the hand brake drum was binding, now before I begin you really must get out of your seats and books,giving the workings of transmissions via dialog ...,

If you jack up one rear wheel only take the hand brake off with a front wheel Chocked and put the gear selector in Neutral.
By turning the back wheel back and fourth there is enough slack in the transmission to watch the hand brake drum moving ( the object ) with no need to wast your time jacking the front . When was the last time you got under your car and off the computer ?????

Yes but you do have a habit of ballsing up your descriptions. Which would lead me to believe you don't know quite as much as you would like people to think. You maybe able to pull the wool over some eyes on here, but you don't know enough to pull it over mine.

wammers · Oct 16, 2012

defender300td1 said:
Still amount. to the same objective than can be achieved more slack with both up

No just the same amount of slack, which would be down to the backlash in the centre diff.

dogsbody · Oct 16, 2012

Mind you he could just try parking at work one day without putting the handbrake on and see what happens.

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