Dodgy Brakes.. L322 2002 Hard brake pedal hardly stops!!!

Always better to agree with yourself before others.

Sylvesters dad said:

Clinically insane... looks that way!

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Some of them are yes but stick around there is a lot of knowlage on here, by the way if got vacuum at servo then does sound like servo gone.

kds said:

Some of them are yes but stick around there is a lot of knowlage on here, by the way if got vacuum at servo then does sound like servo gone.

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Great ok.. but if there is a vacuum at servo doesn't that mean the servo is working correctly? sorry confused...

My recently purchased D2 developed a hard brake pedal though not always. Turned out to be a hose that had popped off, sounds daft but worth checking! Listen for leaks from the servo, maybe try cursing it just enough so it knows you’re irritated but not enough to offend it?

Sylvesters dad said:

Great ok.. but if there is a vacuum at servo doesn't that mean the servo is working correctly? sorry confused...

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If you have a proper L322 (petrol) then the vacuum in these is taken from the inlet manifold.

If you have the dire doozle then the vac is created by way of a pump attached to the engine.


Either or, you should have enough vac to pull very hard on your tongue (if you pull hose out of servo and stick it to your tongue)

Also, there is non return valve fitted to the servo line, check that this works, you shouldn't be able to blow past it in the direction TO the servo.

Sylvesters dad said:

Great ok.. but if there is a vacuum at servo doesn't that mean the servo is working correctly? sorry confused...

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Not always no, servo can die, not often but has been known normal thing with them is seals go and they drink the brake fluid. I would follow the vac pipe from servo back to vac pump on front of engine and check out couple of things that are tee`d off from it, could just be a problem there and not the servo its self so not getting full vacuum, had something like this on my 89 classic when a pipe split going to a vacuum operated flap on the heater (no vacuum to flap means no air flow through heater and heavy brake pedal).

AdamD1 said:

My recently purchased D2 developed a hard brake pedal though not always. Turned out to be a hose that had popped off, sounds daft but worth checking! Listen for leaks from the servo, maybe try cursing it just enough so it knows you’re irritated but not enough to offend it?

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Ha ha ok I like that....

myfirstl322 said:

If you have a proper L322 (petrol) then the vacuum in these is taken from the inlet manifold.

If you have the dire doozle then the vac is created by way of a pump attached to the engine.


Either or, you should have enough vac to pull very hard on your tongue (if you pull hose out of servo and stick it to your tongue)

Also, there is non return valve fitted to the servo line, check that this works, you shouldn't be able to blow past it in the direction TO the servo.

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Ok great thank you... the servo vacuum pipe... is hard plastic ribbed going into the servo?... how do I remove it from the servo?

Sylvesters dad said:

Ok great thank you... the servo vacuum pipe... is hard plastic ribbed going into the servo?... how do I remove it from the servo?

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Sylvesters dad said:

Ok great thank you... the servo vacuum pipe... is hard plastic ribbed going into the servo?... how do I remove it from the servo?

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myfirstl322 said:

If you have a proper L322 (petrol) then the vacuum in these is taken from the inlet manifold.

If you have the dire doozle then the vac is created by way of a pump attached to the engine.


Either or, you should have enough vac to pull very hard on your tongue (if you pull hose out of servo and stick it to your tongue)

Also, there is non return valve fitted to the servo line, check that this works, you shouldn't be able to blow past it in the direction TO the servo.

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I have the petrol...btw if that helps

kds said:

Not always no, servo can die, not often but has been known normal thing with them is seals go and they drink the brake fluid. I would follow the vac pipe from servo back to vac pump on front of engine and check out couple of things that are tee`d off from it, could just be a problem there and not the servo its self so not getting full vacuum, had something like this on my 89 classic when a pipe split going to a vacuum operated flap on the heater (no vacuum to flap means no air flow through heater and heavy brake pedal).

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What vac pump?

Sylvesters dad said:

Ok great thank you... the servo vacuum pipe... is hard plastic ribbed going into the servo?... how do I remove it from the servo?

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I have no wish to instruct you on such an elemental task........have it looked at professionally.

myfirstl322 said:

I have no wish to instruct you on such an elemental task........have it looked at professionally.

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So you don't know? I want to do it myself.. hence me asking on here.. just thought I could get some help??

Plenty help on here for those that don't need the most basics of basics taught to them.

Blimey... maybe basic to you... maybe someone else can help? I'll leave you to get down from your high horse.... WOW...

No, I'm happy up here.......for the simple reason that brakes are best left to pros and I don't think your up to doing what may inevitably need doing.

Sylvesters dad said:

Blimey... maybe basic to you... maybe someone else can help? I'll leave you to get down from your high horse.... WOW...

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Much though my personal opinions on the user you are being so snotty to are not the highest. His help is something you need. He also frequently knows what he is speaking about , on the techie side.
I would suggest, with your 1 day, 15 post membership, it is you, who needs to come off your high horse, give yourself an attitude adjustment and realise you are the one seeking help.
No-one on here, needs to help anyone, no-one gets paid to help. We are a bunch of enthusiasts, owners, and lovers of the brand. Some are very very experienced and knowledgeable, other's are keen amateurs, yet others are trying to learn at the feet of the masters, but we all try to help, simply from the kindness of our hearts and aforementioned love of the brand.
Therefore, when asking for help, whether a well known member, or like yourself, a one day wonder, we should all remember the above and show a little humility and some manners.

gold rover said:

Much though my personal opinions on the user you are being so snotty to are not the highest. His help is something you need. He also frequently knows what he is speaking about , on the techie side.
I would suggest, with your 1 day, 15 post membership, it is you, who needs to come off your high horse, give yourself an attitude adjustment and realise you are the one seeking help.
No-one on here, needs to help anyone, no-one gets paid to help. We are a bunch of enthusiasts, owners, and lovers of the brand. Some are very very experienced and knowledgeable, other's are keen amateurs, yet others are trying to learn at the feet of the masters, but we all try to help, simply from the kindness of our hearts and aforementioned love of the brand.
Therefore, when asking for help, whether a well known member, or like yourself, a one day wonder, we should all remember the above and show a little humility and some manners.

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Yes all I was asking was for some advice not to be told my question was too trivial. I guess you long standing members were clueless to start!?! Is this an online forum or part of the Old boy's Network! I appreciate the help I have had.. I am sorry to of offended anyone.. We all have to start somewhere...?!?!

gold rover said:

Much though my personal opinions on the user you are being so snotty to are not the highest. His help is something you need. He also frequently knows what he is speaking about , on the techie side.
I would suggest, with your 1 day, 15 post membership, it is you, who needs to come off your high horse, give yourself an attitude adjustment and realise you are the one seeking help.
No-one on here, needs to help anyone, no-one gets paid to help. We are a bunch of enthusiasts, owners, and lovers of the brand. Some are very very experienced and knowledgeable, other's are keen amateurs, yet others are trying to learn at the feet of the masters, but we all try to help, simply from the kindness of our hearts and aforementioned love of the brand.
Therefore, when asking for help, whether a well known member, or like yourself, a one day wonder, we should all remember the above and show a little humility and some manners.

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Also it was he who was being "snotty" as you can see... and you say his help I need, well he wasn't interested. Do I have to go through some kind of initiation to carry on?? P.s I am appreciative of any help that's all I wanted! Yes I have been a member for 2 days. Gotta start somewhere??

Why not pm @wammers

myfirstl322 said:

No, I'm happy up here.......for the simple reason that brakes are best left to pros and I don't think your up to doing what may inevitably need doing.

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Ok... but I wanted to just check.. it's not brain surgery.. where's your faith in me?