discovery sport , freelander replacement

Just ordered one yesterday, HSE Auto Corris Grey, Cirus Interior following test drive this weekend. It is really a lovely car and drives very differently to my current 2012 FL2 HSE Lux. I would have liked to go for the HSE Luxury but really the £3.5k hike over the HSE just for basically a bit more tech (auto parking and light up tread plate!) didn't justify it. Did add the heated steering wheel option (once you've had it you can't live without it) and the spare wheel option. No spare wheel on the Discovery Sport only gloop and an air compressor (not a fan of that). Opted for the service pack, excellent value given it covers 5 years. Changed now as the residuals on the FL2 will start to fall. Trade in was OK, not fantastic even after visiting 3 dealers. New car looks really nice, looking forward to its delivery in April

asl1956 said:

Just ordered one yesterday, HSE Auto Corris Grey, Cirus Interior following test drive this weekend. It is really a lovely car and drives very differently to my current 2012 FL2 HSE Lux. I would have liked to go for the HSE Luxury but really the £3.5k hike over the HSE just for basically a bit more tech (auto parking and light up tread plate!) didn't justify it. Did add the heated steering wheel option (once you've had it you can't live without it) and the spare wheel option. No spare wheel on the Discovery Sport only gloop and an air compressor (not a fan of that). Opted for the service pack, excellent value given it covers 5 years. Changed now as the residuals on the FL2 will start to fall. Trade in was OK, not fantastic even after visiting 3 dealers. New car looks really nice, looking forward to its delivery in April

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oh wow, am defentely envious, would u be so kind to put some pics up when u get it plse, would u say it's better than the fl2 then,has the sport got the full air suspension by any chance

I think there suppose to get around 40 mpg arnt they

bet u can't wait to rush down the showroom when it comes in,lol

hope u didn't mind me asking about pics etc

I often wonder how the disco 4 compares down the motoway or country lanes in comparrison to the freelander or disco sport ,may my freelander 1 doesn't feel like a 4x4 at all and sits really nicely on the motorway , quiet and doesn't sway through country lanes but sticks to the road really well

Disco 4 is nice to drive. Effortless on motorway. Conutry roads don't have the roll you would eggspect as it controls it's suspension to suit. It has active braking so brakes the wheels on the side its turning, to hug the corner more. Possibly only the rear - can't remember. The air ride is more comfortable and a twin turbo 3L doesn't lack power. Oft road it's good too as you would expect. Locking diffs etc and the ability to crawl in low box with a lot of torgue. Value for money for what you get... the D4 beats the range rover. For everyday use this award would move to the FL2 which is a lower spec/ability vehicle compared to the D4, but more than enough for what peeps need.

I like how these manufactures' often quote mile per gallon for one thing I dare then to try and buy a gallon in the UK and get the right change , but the other thing is when they quote the figures they do not tell you that it is on a test bed with NO drive belts attached even the alternator is not attached so they can get max out of it. and the car is going no where it is stuck on that test bed.

teddywood1 said:

I like how these manufactures' often quote mile per gallon for one thing I dare then to try and buy a gallon in the UK and get the right change , but the other thing is when they quote the figures they do not tell you that it is on a test bed with NO drive belts attached even the alternator is not attached so they can get max out of it. and the car is going no where it is stuck on that test bed.

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It's done on the road. LR normally quote the speed, number of accelerations and if they've sat and revved it a bit.

edit: I sit corrected. It's seems they list figures from a different test to what they did years ago. Before it actually gave you real driving figures as opposed to a datum which allows easy comparison to other vehicles.

I have often wondered about the true mpg and how they get it,

would be interesting if they gave the off road mpg, lol

thks for the info hippo ref the d4 , I do like the look of them but out of my price range

sounds sad but like the idea of full air suspension so it offers more versatility , but of course brings further problems etc

would love to test drive a d4 one day , but fearful i would want one even more,

The official MPG figures (and CO2 figures) are tested on a rolling road under an extremely strict procedure set down by the government. Unfortunately, this system, while completely consistent, is utterly flawed and encourages manufacturers to design cars to do well in the test, but not real life.

For instance, as it takes place on a rolling road, no steering is used. So, ditch hydraulic power steering (which always uses power all of the time) and fit electric assistance (which only uses power when it's used). It makes no difference on the road, but a useful difference on the test bed. While you're at it, fit stop start and program it to Perform its party tricks best under the conditions when the engine would otherwise idle during the test.

Don't blame the manufacturers for publishing misleading figures, blame the government for insisting on such a worthless test procedure!

A heated steering wheel sounds nice on these cold mornings, especially with my poor circulation.

The cornering assist / braking thing. The wife's beetle has something like this and it's surprising how well it corners at speed for a fwd car! I've pushed it quite hard on a slippery roundabout and it just stayed on track. That does brake the inside rear wheel so I guess the disco one is the same.

Well I'm not worried because by the time it appears on my used car radar the clever peeps on here will have had 10 or 15 years to suss out all the fixes and workarounds for me..

I sit corrected. It's seems they list figures from a different test to what they did years ago. Before it actually gave you real driving figures as opposed to a datum which allows easy comparison to other vehicles.

Unfortunately, the official test procedure is so artificial that it doesn't even give reliable data to compare vehicles. The acceleration phases are so gentle (0-60 in > 30 seconds anyone?) that it only stresses small engines very lightly, giving phenomenal MPG and CO2 figures. Put them in real driving situations and these figures go completely to pot.
Conversely, take a car like the 2.5 litre, 5 cylinder petrol Focus RS,that I owned from 2010 to 2013, it was easy to equal, or even better, the official test figures.

I was hanging on for the Disco Sport to replace my 8 year old FL2 TD4 HSE. I am really disappointed however to find that they don't intend to fit the new 2L diesel until late 2015. Even then, it won't go in an HSE spec. according to what I've seen.
While the current 2.2 unit has better consumption figures that the older version, its not good enough on an old engine to justify changing just to get slightly better mpg. Think I'll be hanging on for a while longer.

Come on LR - do the right thing!
Get that 2L engine with a twin scroll turbo out there sooner rather than later.

I don't understand Land Rover on this one.

Firstly, they take the best selling car in the range, the FL2, then discontinue availability of new stock at the start of November (all remaining new stock had to be pre-registered by 1/11/14 - I know, I tried to buy a new one at the start of November and they were all gone). Having shut off the supply of new FL2s, it's nearly 3 months until the very first showroom only stock of the new car arrives, with a starting price thousands of pounds higher than the car it replaces, with a 5 proper / 2 Mickey Mouse seat layout being the only option for the foreseeable future. To then make matters worse, it becomes common knowledge that the engine is due to be replaced to 12 months after launch with something radically new and hugely more economical; many buyers will hold off or, worse still, go elsewhere.

If there's a scheme more likely to damage their dealership's turnover and margins than this, I'll be darned if I know what it is.

I can just imagine the memos going out from BMW, Audi, VW etc etc to their dealers to make sure that their sales people make the most of this marketing cock up of monumental proportions.

Think of the fate of the poor dealer reps from Land Rover, having their nuts roasted over an open fire by angry dealer principles who've seen a large proportion of their showroom traffic vanish for months on end!

I know exactly what you mean. We've just bought another car - a BMW. I am sorely tempted to go looking elsewhere for a replacement for my car. I'm already been in other showrooms. As much as I want (and could afford) a Disco, I love the FL. I couldn't justify the fuel costs of the Disco doing the mileage I do. Buying marginally more efficient FL using an old engine doesn't add up. The LR strategy doesn't make sense. They created a growing market in the FL and then just abandon it. The 2L engine is available - I've a neighbour who has got one in his Jag. What are they playing at?

The FL is the perfect car for us. So are however many others. I have decided for the moment at least, to keep my FL for another year or more. Not because I want to, but because it is effectively our second car, its best thing for us.

Freelanders rule.

I seem to remember my dad wanted a Disco when they came out - but they didn't do it in Auto - so he got a Carlton estate. Then they bought out the Auto so he got 1 and the auto box cooler pipes promptly fell off.

Looks like the strategies don't change - lets hope the quality has.

Hopefully it has cos my bro's been in charge of some quality 'thing' on the Sport build, been piling on the miles between Gaydon & Halewood keeping tabs on things for months. He's in Iceland at the mo for some jolly - sorry launch event.

I sat in one yesterday while waiting for my MOT to be done (why did they take 2 hours) and it was very comfortable but it is like the evoke with that tiny back window which I do not like , the wife and I are thinking of getting a series this year but keeping the freelanders I hasten to add.

teddywood1 said:

I sat in one yesterday while waiting for my MOT to be done (why did they take 2 hours) and it was very comfortable but it is like the evoke with that tiny back window which I do not like , the wife and I are thinking of getting a series this year but keeping the freelanders I hasten to add.

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My FL2 is in for a service today. I have been given a brand new Disco Sport SD4 SE as a courtesy car. It didn't even have number plates on when I arrived!
I have to say, despite dissing the 2.2 engine, in this guise it is very good. It also returned 35mpg on the 20 mile cross country journey home with a 15 minute traffic jam too. Not at all bad for a brand new tight engine. All very nice

I might be convinced (other than the price)….

Redline - unless your neighbour has a Jaguar XE then he won't have the new 2.0 Diesel engine. The XE isn't on sale to the public yet!

Plus the likes of BMW, Audi etc rarely launch a brand new car with brand new engines. They do a phased introduction to iron out quality problems with the rest of the car without having a whole heap of problems (potentially of course!)

I live in JLR country. There's always presale models around. It's difficult to remember what's out there for Joe public sometimes. We often see locals with new models and upgrades some while before they go on sale. Ten months is an awful long lead time. Ten weeks is an long time in manufacturing.