Hi all, I'm interested to get peoples thoughts on the Disco 1 regarding whether it is now thought of as a classic car or just an old car that's a useful source of parts for a Defender, I'd also be interested to hear what peoples definition of a classic is and what the requirements of classic status are, is it purely age, is it desirability, is it rarity, maybe value? Personally I believe my old 98 ES 300tdi is definitely a classic that I won't be parting with at any time soon so for me value doesn't really come in to it but I guess for many that will be a major factor.
Disco 1 - Is it a classic?
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Yes for all sorts of reasons but mostly because they represent so much.
The vehicle that saved LR at a difficult time.
The best all rounder, cheaper than a RR, innovative and more practical.
Apart from body rust, long lived and easy to fix. Also less consumptive of fuel than what followed it.
Last of the breed that wasn't electronics heavy.
And the emotions they arouse in people.
I have two and won't be getting rid of either.
Plus they actually look good, unlike the blocks of flats on wheels that followed the D2.
The vehicle that saved LR at a difficult time.
The best all rounder, cheaper than a RR, innovative and more practical.
Apart from body rust, long lived and easy to fix. Also less consumptive of fuel than what followed it.
Last of the breed that wasn't electronics heavy.
And the emotions they arouse in people.
I have two and won't be getting rid of either.
Plus they actually look good, unlike the blocks of flats on wheels that followed the D2.
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As a classic car owner my definition of “classic car” is a cherished car over 25 years old kept in a garage highly polished and used only on weekends in the summer going to the pub, weather permitting, plus going to classic vehicle shows with it.
But you do see 5 or 10 classics with the mini , Golfs, Alpha’s Jags …etc etc at the classic shows and then of cours instant classics, which are the high performance super sports cars. Lambo etc etc.
The Government definition is a car over 40 years old, so no MOT or road tax payments.. thank you.
I did take my 6month old RR to a classic car show and drove straight in, but it did have a lot of kit in the back for a Ford stand, and after unloading drove over and joined the Range Rover Register stand a bit of a surprise for them… who’s he?
As for the D1 its a bit of a classic now, I haven't seen another one in over a year may be longer, theres plenty of D3 and 4s plus the modern RRs which seem to all be black or grey in convoy in some areas I happen to past through.
But you do see 5 or 10 classics with the mini , Golfs, Alpha’s Jags …etc etc at the classic shows and then of cours instant classics, which are the high performance super sports cars. Lambo etc etc.
The Government definition is a car over 40 years old, so no MOT or road tax payments.. thank you.
I did take my 6month old RR to a classic car show and drove straight in, but it did have a lot of kit in the back for a Ford stand, and after unloading drove over and joined the Range Rover Register stand a bit of a surprise for them… who’s he?
As for the D1 its a bit of a classic now, I haven't seen another one in over a year may be longer, theres plenty of D3 and 4s plus the modern RRs which seem to all be black or grey in convoy in some areas I happen to past through.
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Don't see why a classic has to be kept like this. Why can't a classic be the same but a daily driver?
My 1998 Anniversary Disco to me is a classic for all the reasons listed above. and it sure isn't kept in a garage, etc etc.
If people have to adhere to a list of strict criteria to be able to call any old bit of motoring stuff a classic, then I think they are missing the point.
"Classic" is more of an emotive word and probably means different things to differnent people.
And who is to say who is right and who is wrong?
"Stanleysteamer, post: 5516465, member: 107273"]"Classic" is more of an emotive word and probably means different things to differnent people.
And who is to say who is right and who is wrong?
I totally agree, I would describe mine as a classic but I completely understand that not everyone would agree
And who is to say who is right and who is wrong?
I totally agree, I would describe mine as a classic but I completely understand that not everyone would agree
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That would have bene the three door model with a car with the carburetted 3.5 ltr engine, which must be very rare now.
But then there was the 3.9 RR in the show rooms alongside,
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A classic is an older car that's got some sort of following. The reasons can be varied but often it's a car that stood out from the crowd in some way, maybe new and innovative in its day, or maybe was just the bee's knees
There are differing opinions on whether a heavily modded car or one rebuilt with modern replacement parts is still a classic, but that's usually a category separate from 'barn find original'
There are differing opinions on whether a heavily modded car or one rebuilt with modern replacement parts is still a classic, but that's usually a category separate from 'barn find original'
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I fairly sure I have seen a D1 at a classic car show, but was passed by as I own one, as for value maybe 2 or 3 grand if I am lucky, even though the V8 has only done 48,000 and a bit miles, when it was in the showroom 25 years ago it was 32 grand.
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And some cars you would never think would be seen this way would become loved and cherished have done just that. The Marina Owners club for instance.
They were the donor for Marlin roadsters and some Marina owners have actually bought Marlins to strip for spares.
Ditto Triumph based kit cars.
In fact many kit cars are welcome at their donor's stands at classic car shows. Many kit cars being old now, my Marlin was built in 1984 on a 1972 donor.
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In France I can take all of my Discos to car shows as many make the cut off age the year 2000. The D2 being a 2000 MY.
the wife's Chesil Speedster was invited back year after year to one particular show.
the wife's Chesil Speedster was invited back year after year to one particular show.
That would have bene the three door model with a car with the carburetted 3.5 ltr engine, which must be very rare now.
But then there was the 3.9 RR in the show rooms alongside,
I think the DOC have an early Gwac 3.5?
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I have taken my 94 to a couple of classic shows, I've had quite a bit of interest too.
We went to a new vehicle meet last weekend, Kingsley in Oxfordshire.
They specialise in LR, mainly classic RR, series and defenders.
They have a 94 RR for sale, for 125k.
If only I could upload photos
We went to a new vehicle meet last weekend, Kingsley in Oxfordshire.
They specialise in LR, mainly classic RR, series and defenders.
They have a 94 RR for sale, for 125k.
If only I could upload photos
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Their having a laugh. Here is one that is a bit cheeper.
https://themarket.bonhams.com/en/li...71d8b-49fc-42b7-ad0e-44091edd71c7?status=live
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I thought it was £12,500, but realised there was another 0.
Speaking with a guy who works there, he said you're buying a brand new vehicle, as most of it is new.
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I don't really know what a classic is.
What I would be interested in is "Historic Vehicle" status, as that has considerable financial implications, Free road tax, MOT exemption, Classic insurance, exemption from the various Congestion charges and Emissions related charging schemes which are springing up all over the UK.
Historic Vehicle registration in the UK is available to vehicles over 40 years old, From memory, Discos were introduced in about 1989, although I could be wrong about that.
So they are not considered to be legally Historic, the government doesn't seem to mention the term classic.
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Tories started it and it was 25 years rolling, then Liebore killed it off in 97ish.
Then back as the 40 year exemption under the Tory lot.
