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Truth or fiction? Ford may be getting ready to sell off Land Rover and
Jaguar http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2095-2300297.html makes you
wonder how that would affect the parts business which seems still to be
struggling?.

Buy a new Pinzgauer and you could be pleasantly surprised with the engine
option of the brand new Land Rover V8 diesel instead of the 2.5 l 4cyl unit
I have to hope they also supply a parachute to slow the buggers down once
the forces take delivery.

Derek


 

"Derek" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Truth or fiction? Ford may be getting ready to sell off Land Rover and
> Jaguar http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2095-2300297.html makes
you
> wonder how that would affect the parts business which seems still to be
> struggling?.
>
> Buy a new Pinzgauer and you could be pleasantly surprised with the engine
> option of the brand new Land Rover V8 diesel instead of the 2.5 l 4cyl
unit
> I have to hope they also supply a parachute to slow the buggers down once
> the forces take delivery.
>
> Derek
>
>

Bet the Russkies get it; after all their auto industry was akin to LR ....
agricultural and all the bits rattled and fell off.

Unfortunately not enough people appreciate the real LR product and it seems
all is geared toward the fad SUV market.
What LR needs is an agressive marketing dept, a goverment that supports
local industry and the will to push good products.


 
Land Rover, the company is dead, however real Land Rovers are not dead.

--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes

"Derek" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Truth or fiction? Ford may be getting ready to sell off Land Rover and
> Jaguar http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2095-2300297.html makes
you
> wonder how that would affect the parts business which seems still to be
> struggling?.
>
> Buy a new Pinzgauer and you could be pleasantly surprised with the engine
> option of the brand new Land Rover V8 diesel instead of the 2.5 l 4cyl
unit
> I have to hope they also supply a parachute to slow the buggers down once
> the forces take delivery.
>
> Derek
>
>


 

"Larry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Land Rover, the company is dead, however real Land Rovers are not dead.
>
> --
> Larry
> Series 3 rust and holes
>
> "Derek" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Truth or fiction? Ford may be getting ready to sell off Land Rover and
>> Jaguar http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2095-2300297.html makes
> you
>> wonder how that would affect the parts business which seems still to be
>> struggling?.
>>
>> Buy a new Pinzgauer and you could be pleasantly surprised with the
>> engine
>> option of the brand new Land Rover V8 diesel instead of the 2.5 l 4cyl
> unit
>> I have to hope they also supply a parachute to slow the buggers down once
>> the forces take delivery.
>>
>> Derek
>>
>>

"Larry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Land Rover, the company is dead, however real Land Rovers are not dead.
>
> --
> Larry
> Series 3 rust and holes

Nope they are being built in Spain and unless Land Rover do something
impressive the Santana seems likely to take over from the Defender. I've
been spotting them in increasing numbers in the North all tricked out in
company colours for the likes of Forestry and Electicity companies to me
that spells out fleet purchases surely LR can't afford to let that happen if
they want to maintain credibilty.
Derek


 
Derek wrote:
> Truth or fiction? Ford may be getting ready to sell off Land Rover and
> Jaguar http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2095-2300297.html makesyou
> wonder how that would affect the parts business which seems still to be
> struggling?.
>
> Buy a new Pinzgauer and you could be pleasantly surprised with the engine
> option of the brand new Land Rover V8 diesel instead of the 2.5 l 4cyl unit
> I have to hope they also supply a parachute to slow the buggers down once
> the forces take delivery.
>
> Derek
>
>

Perhaps someone at Ford has seen the reports of £1800/year road tax for
"gas guzzling 4x4's" in the UK and decided that will kill off LR. Better
to sell it now before they have to close it down.

--
Regards

Steve G
 
In message <[email protected]>
SteveG <_@_._> wrote:

> Derek wrote:
> > Truth or fiction? Ford may be getting ready to sell off Land Rover and
> > Jaguar http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2095-2300297.html makes you
> > wonder how that would affect the parts business which seems still to be
> > struggling?.
> >
> > Buy a new Pinzgauer and you could be pleasantly surprised with the engine
> > option of the brand new Land Rover V8 diesel instead of the 2.5 l 4cyl unit
> > I have to hope they also supply a parachute to slow the buggers down once
> > the forces take delivery.
> >
> > Derek
> >
> >
>
> Perhaps someone at Ford has seen the reports of £1800/year road tax for
> "gas guzzling 4x4's" in the UK and decided that will kill off LR. Better
> to sell it now before they have to close it down.
>

A very likely scenario - one I've moaning about for ages (yeh, yeh
I know, ad nauseum infact!). LR need to keep their to their roots
(i.e. Defender) for just such an eventuality. Produce Chelsea Tractors
by all means, but have a good solid Plan B ready.

Richard
--
www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk [email protected]
RISC-OS - Where have all the good guys gone?
Lib Dems - Townies keeping comedy alive
 
In article <552a37564e%[email protected]>,
beamendsltd <[email protected]> wrote:
>In message <[email protected]>
> SteveG <_@_._> wrote:
>
>> Derek wrote:
>> > Truth or fiction? Ford may be getting ready to sell off Land Rover and
>> > Jaguar http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2095-2300297.html makes you

>> Perhaps someone at Ford has seen the reports of £1800/year road tax for
>> "gas guzzling 4x4's" in the UK and decided that will kill off LR. Better
>> to sell it now before they have to close it down.

>A very likely scenario - one I've moaning about for ages (yeh, yeh
>I know, ad nauseum infact!). LR need to keep their to their roots
>(i.e. Defender) for just such an eventuality. Produce Chelsea Tractors
>by all means, but have a good solid Plan B ready.

From the financial pages I've seen it seems more likely that F*rd
are absolutely desperate to get rid of Jaguar and because no-one
is daft enough to take it on they will have to offer a sweetener
to go with it. Land-Rover is profitable and isn't (yet) so tightly
integrated into the rest of FoMoCo that it wouldn't be viable if
detached: in a sense, it's the only thing Ford have that they could
bundle with Jaguar in the hope that some poor mutt^W^W other company
will sup from the poisoned chalice.

Wonder if this is why GAZ are interested: they have a commercial
vehicles/off-road background, and getting the L-R badge and dealer
network could be very useful for them. Jag, I suspect, would be
jettisoned without much delay.

--
Andy Breen ~ Not speaking on behalf of the University of Wales, Aberystwyth
Feng Shui: an ancient oriental art for extracting
money from the gullible (Martin Sinclair)
 
On 2006-08-13, SteveG <_@_._> wrote:

> Perhaps someone at Ford has seen the reports of £1800/year road tax for
> "gas guzzling 4x4's" in the UK and decided that will kill off LR. Better
> to sell it now before they have to close it down.

I doubt that many people paying £60K for a pose-mobile will worry
about the tax hike, all the tax hike would mean is that the vehicles
get scrapped much earlier in their lives than they otherwise would,
making them even more of a waste of resources. Roll on environmental
short-sightendness!

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
 
Ian Rawlings wrote:
> On 2006-08-13, SteveG <+AF8AQABf-.+AF8-> wrote:
>
>
>>Perhaps someone at Ford has seen the reports of +/6M-1800/year road tax for
>>"gas guzzling 4x4's" in the UK and decided that will kill off LR. Better
>>to sell it now before they have to close it down.
>
>
> I doubt that many people paying +/6M-60K for a pose-mobile will worry
> about the tax hike, all the tax hike would mean is that the vehicles
> get scrapped much earlier in their lives than they otherwise would,
> making them even more of a waste of resources. Roll on environmental
> short-sightendness!
>
Not quite sure I follow the logic - tax is payable from day one, so why
would it encourage earlier scrapping? (More expensive MOT I could
understand)

Stuart
 
On 2006-08-14, Srtgray <[email protected]> wrote:

> Not quite sure I follow the logic - tax is payable from day one, so why
> would it encourage earlier scrapping? (More expensive MOT I could
> understand)

When the original owners move on to the next trinket after a year or
two, they will sell it for whatever the market value is. You then
have to add the huge tax hike to the cost, so after a few owners it's
not going to be worth buying due to the whacking great big tax belt,
so it'll go to the scrappy.

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
 
Ian Rawlings wrote:
> On 2006-08-14, Srtgray <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Not quite sure I follow the logic - tax is payable from day one, so why
>> would it encourage earlier scrapping? (More expensive MOT I could
>>understand)
>
>
> When the original owners move on to the next trinket after a year or
> two, they will sell it for whatever the market value is. You then
> have to add the huge tax hike to the cost, so after a few owners it's
> not going to be worth buying due to the whacking great big tax belt,
> so it'll go to the scrappy.
>
Aah, thanks!

Stuart
 
Well if I had to pay something like 90% of the price I paid originally each
year just to retain it on the road, you can see why I might want to scrap my
oldie. Actually I would be far more likely to go illegal in that
eventuality, the cost benefit analysis is more in my favour, crazy world
isn't it. False plates or none at all :)

None at all and no chassis/engine number, that would screw them up. I doubt
I have a chassis number anywhere on it any longer anyhow.

And of course I could always dress up as Rebecca when driving


--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes



"Srtgray" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ian Rawlings wrote:
> >
> Not quite sure I follow the logic - tax is payable from day one, so why
> would it encourage earlier scrapping? (More expensive MOT I could
> understand)
>
> Stuart


 
On 2006-08-14, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

> Well if I had to pay something like 90% of the price I paid originally each
> year just to retain it on the road, you can see why I might want to scrap my
> oldie. Actually I would be far more likely to go illegal in that
> eventuality, the cost benefit analysis is more in my favour, crazy world
> isn't it. False plates or none at all :)

I doubt even the most vote-hungry politician would make any huge hike
retrospective, so far they've all applied to only new vehicles. This
allows them to look tough without really affecting anyone other than
the wealthy, who already bankroll much of their daft schemes so you'd
think they'd be nice to them.

> And of course I could always dress up as Rebecca when driving

If Rebecca is a human then you'd probably be OK, if she's your pet
goat then you might draw unwelcome attention.

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
 
Well lets hope so else I shall have to get that long promised Scammell
Explorer and see them try and carry that off to the crusher. I'd crush them
first.


--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes




"Ian Rawlings" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 2006-08-14, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I doubt even the most vote-hungry politician would make any huge hike
> retrospective, so far they've all applied to only new vehicles. This
> allows them to look tough without really affecting anyone other than
> the wealthy, who already bankroll much of their daft schemes so you'd
> think they'd be nice to them.
>


 
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