Defender TD5 Turbo is toast - James Bond Smoke Screen

Just blown my turbo as it is making some awful shrieking sounds and making white smoke like James Bond's Aston.
Any body know the best (cheapest) place to get a replacement?
MOT is due next week so got to get it done sharpish.
Had a look on eBay but they all look in worse condition than mine.

Found a place doing brand new OEM PMF000040 turbos for £370.00 inc VAT and delivery. Cant see anywhere being cheaper than that. Expected to pay nearer to double for a spangly new one. Decided to give the second hand ones on eBay a miss as they all look ****e and are probably full of it as well.
Craddocks and Paddocks are at £340 and £343 +vat + delivery but I dont know if they are Britpart items or proper Garret units.
Any preferences between the two of them if I had to choose?
Just got to make sure that its the right one for my 1998 TD5.
Any of you know the correc part no. or how I can find out?
Cheers

Personally I'd go for the OEM new stuff, it's the safest bet.

You never really know how long the second hand ones are going to last.

After sleeping on it I've ordered the OEM unit for £370 all in. They even supply new gaskets so cant argue with that. Some places wanted more than that for a rebuilt exchange unit.
Could have done without the expense but it was the original turbo and had done 125K miles so not too bad. Dont know how well the previous owner seviced the motor or changed oil so at least I'll know everything is good from now on.
Thought about a rebuild kit but as the turbine has contacted the casing (can you say noisy) I decided this was not the way to go.
Just got to hope that I can get the nuts off the manifold without snapping any studs.

Pleasantly surprised I am.
Took me thirty minutes to get the old turdo off and the hardest part of that was getting the heatshield off first.
No seized nuts or broken studs which is amazing.
With the thing off the motor I can see exactly what has gone wrong.
If I grab the rotor in the inlet side I can move the spindle from side to side about 10mm and I can also see where the vanes have ground themselves against the casing. The bearing has completely broken up and yet until it happened there where no signs of anything wrong. It all went tits up in the space of a few miles at no more than 40 miles an hour.
Surprisingly even with the turbo in this state it was still boosting to 1.2 bar albeit a little noisily. I guess it was just a matter of time until something let loose and I ended up with bits of turbo pushed into my intercooler.
Just waiting for the new turbo unit to arrive and hoping it goes back on as easily.
I've cleaned the oil pipes out that feed the turbo but they did not seem to dirty to begin with. Is there any way I can check the oil feed to the turbo just in case it was oil starvation that caused the old one to fail?

You could crank the engine with the turbo feed pipe in a bottle. About stopping the engine from starting, in my 2.5 or 300 I would pull the solenoid wire off the pump in your case eh... pour some oil into the looms... somone in here with a TD5 will no doubt know an easy way of stopping the engine starting but letting you turn it over - I don't know where all the wires are - if you knew where the feed to your fuel pump was that would do.

Here is the process being done on youtube - he has taken the turbo out pipe with the turbo installed - you could do this if you wait for your new turbo, but if you want to test it in the mean time use the above method.

YouTube - Turbo oil return

Why don't you rebuild the old turbo and sell it on ebay...

Thought about a rebuild but having looked at the inside of the casing it looks a bit too scored for my liking. I'd not be happy if I bought it and it looked as it does so I'll keep it for spares such as the vacum and linkages etc.
Also I'm not sure about how you balance the things when rebuilt.
I did think of using the exhaust part and making a blanking plate so I could at least drive around with no turbo whilst I was waiting for the new one to arrive or saving my pennies but then I remebered the oil would be going everywhere and I'm not sure what my ECU would make of things either.
Silly thoughts that go through my head occassionaly.

Checked out the oil feed by pulling the fuel pump fuse and cranking with the banjo in a coke can. Plenty of flow so no worries there. Took off the turbo drain pipe and gave that a good clean as well.
New turbo is on and working so I'm back in business. Cant praise the guys at Island 4x4 (Kent) enough as they had it in the post double quick.
It is a genuine brand new Garret - not a refurb or a cheap chinese copy.
Sent with a complete set of gaskets so no messing about there. The numbers on the casing are Garret and not Landrover but it is identical to the old one.
I reckon that for £370 delivered it is good value for money - especially as my local landy dealer wanted £1100 +vat for the exact same unit and also told me that it is not a DIY fit. ??????????
Took the old unit apart and the bearing is completely broken up. Good news is that the small bits and pieces of bearing were trapped between the oil seals. The exhaust rotor was badly worn down but I'm assuming any bits went out the exhaust. The slightly more worrying thing is where did the filings from the compressor vanes go? These were not so worn but I'm assuming into my intercooler so I'll take it off and blow it through to make sure. I dont know why the old turbo let loose but I dont think it was oil starvation as when it blew I was making smoke like a battleship with my new engine oil which must have been flowing through the oil feed. Maybe it was just one of them things. I'll never know. How long is a turbo supposed to last?

I think the average figure that floats about is 80,000, but it depends how you drive i.e. its not a good idea to rev it up then turn off the engine as the turbo will then spool down from 200,000rpm with no oil. Obviously changing your oil at proper regular intervals will help etc...

So 112,000 miles is nothing to complain about then.
Makes me feel a little bit happier but still bloody skint.

im sure u know, but theres lots of things that help prolong turbos, regular oil changes, a good one is 2 start it and then not rev it at all for 30secs or so, 2 allow oil 2 circulate properly.

boydy1989 said:

im sure u know, but theres lots of things that help prolong turbos, regular oil changes, a good one is 2 start it and then not rev it at all for 30secs or so, 2 allow oil 2 circulate properly.

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Mind you, almost all engines would like this turbo or not.