Crankshaft Oil Seal Conundrum

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tryhard2

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Hi guys, bit of advice and/or moral support if poss.
Long story short, timing belt snapped back in february, broke some valve gear etc, local garage fitted new belt kit and valve gear.
This afternoon, I noticed an oil leak, fresh engine oil ( service and oil change last week) dripping from wading plug hole in timing cover. Obviously front crank oil seal gone. I had expected this to be changed with the cam belt job so went to aforementioned local garage and pointed out the leak and suggested the new seal fitted less than six months ago had failed.
"Nah," says the mechanic," we wont have changed that unless it was leaking when we did the belt. Thing with these Disco's, they're a bit prone to these seals giving out, can happen at any time"
He then told me that they could do the job for me at a cost of £150.00.
Thing is, were booked to go off with the van Thursday morning and I have to get it repaired so I had no choice but to leave it with him.
What I need to know before I collect the Disco and part with a sizable chunk of me holiday dosh is, am I wrong? Is it not usual to fit a new seal with a cam belt change, or at least after a cam belt failure? Or is it normal to leave it alone if it doesn't seem to be leaking? My personal opinion is that for the sake of a fiver and another 10 mins on the bill it should have been replaced when the belt failure damage was fixed as a matter of course, particularly if they are prone to failure anyway.
Should I dig my heels in or let it go?
Look forward to the replies.

Paul
 
just simple case of cant be arsed , i change the oil seals every time , same as water pumps on cam driven ones . the bill doesn't generally increase more than 10% .its just daft not to ,same as clutch changes without doing thrust bearings its daft not to .
No point in digging your heels in ,just go elsewhere
 
Festerer said:
just simple case of cant be arsed , i change the oil seals every time , same as water pumps on cam driven ones . the bill doesn't generally increase more than 10% .its just daft not to ,same as clutch changes without doing thrust bearings its daft not to .
No point in digging your heels in ,just go elsewhere
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its not ,its not part of cam belt change
 
seals arent prone to failure ,most weep a little but failure and big leak isnt a regular occurrence though on an engine/vehicle over 15 years old theres bound to be a few bits reaching end of life
 
tryhard2 said:
Hi guys, bit of advice and/or moral support if poss.
Long story short, timing belt snapped back in february, broke some valve gear etc, local garage fitted new belt kit and valve gear.
This afternoon, I noticed an oil leak, fresh engine oil ( service and oil change last week) dripping from wading plug hole in timing cover. Obviously front crank oil seal gone. I had expected this to be changed with the cam belt job so went to aforementioned local garage and pointed out the leak and suggested the new seal fitted less than six months ago had failed.
"Nah," says the mechanic," we wont have changed that unless it was leaking when we did the belt. Thing with these Disco's, they're a bit prone to these seals giving out, can happen at any time"
He then told me that they could do the job for me at a cost of £150.00.
Thing is, were booked to go off with the van Thursday morning and I have to get it repaired so I had no choice but to leave it with him.
What I need to know before I collect the Disco and part with a sizable chunk of me holiday dosh is, am I wrong? Is it not usual to fit a new seal with a cam belt change, or at least after a cam belt failure? Or is it normal to leave it alone if it doesn't seem to be leaking? My personal opinion is that for the sake of a fiver and another 10 mins on the bill it should have been replaced when the belt failure damage was fixed as a matter of course, particularly if they are prone to failure anyway.
Should I dig my heels in or let it go?
Look forward to the replies.

Paul
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Too late to help you, except maybe in retro moral support. Broken pulley snapped my Freelander timing belt, messed up all the valves, etc. Immediately after repair, cam seal was leaking. Hadn't added more than 2 qts oil in 10 years before that, had to add 2 qts in next several months. Same mechanic first said leak was from the oil sender unit connection. Replaced that at my expense, but no fix. Same mechanic finally identified cam seal leak. Now, obviously, the cam seal leak is related to the engine repair. Credulity bars believing it to be coincidence. So, if you're in there, taking covers and things apart and off, and going to reseal those covers and parts, isn't it just basic good practice to replace the thing that's actually going to make the seal work? Wasn't it the mechanic's repair work that caused the leak? Of course it was. It didn't leak before the repair, it did after, the seal wasn't replaced, it leaks at the seal....golly, it's a mystery! NOT!
 
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