Cooking oil in TD5

Shifty1962 · Oct 10, 2010

Here you go complete with links to filters etc.

Shifty1962 said:
OK here we go.

This is my setup as it stands now.

I rough filter (through geotex landscape mesh to catch any nuts and bolts etc.) 180 litres of the raw oil into the oil drum and add 20 litres or a Jerry full of petrol (stale stuff is excellent for this).

I made a compressed air gizmo out of standard plumbing fittings and washing machine hoses which reaches down into the drum and stops about 4 inches from the bottom. This lets the sludge settle out. I use this to pump 50 litres of thinned oil into the blue 60 litre catch tank (£60 on eBay). No more than 10psi is needed which a standard oil drum can handle with no problems. It takes about 2 minutes to shift 50 litres. I ground everything to prevent any static sparks for obvious reasons.

Once again using compressed air (cos I'm too tight to buy a proper oil pump) I filter the oil/petrol mix through two stainless mesh filters of 100 and then 50 microns. These are not shown in these pics but they are mounted in line before the dual marine filter on the 60 litre catch tank. I'll add a picture when I take one.

Kerosene Heating Oil, Bio Diesel, Fuel Filter 15mm on eBay (end time 19-Jan-10 17:44:33 GMT)

and then through this little beauty which is a 5-10 micron marine diesel filter.
Spare filters are £1 each on eBay and they filter about 200-300 litres before getting clogged.

Twin Double Fuel Filter Lucas CAV - Diesel , Bio WVO on eBay (end time 20-Jan-10 21:29:25 GMT)

I used to use paper paint filters but this is much better and less messy.

Once its filtered it goes into a second clean oil drum from which I can use it as required.

alanhid · Oct 10, 2010

Shifty.................you are the man, thanks again.

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Heavy Breather · Oct 11, 2010

Are we still on the original thread of WVO in a TD5? I assume the same will work for a TD4?

CharlesY · Oct 14, 2010

Heavy Breather said:
Are we still on the original thread of WVO in a TD5? I assume the same will work for a TD4?

STOP!!!!!

People MUST stop thinking a TD4 is a 4 cylinder version of a TD5.

These engines have NOTHING in common, except the words 'LandRover' on the lid.

The TD4 is a typical common-rail diesel.
The TD5 isn't - it uses mechanically struck Delphi injectors.

CharlesY

Landie_Man · Oct 14, 2010

my 2.25 runs good on a 60/40 or 70/30

Heavy Breather · Oct 14, 2010

CharlesY said:
STOP!!!!!

People MUST stop thinking a TD4 is a 4 cylinder version of a TD5.

These engines have NOTHING in common, except the words 'LandRover' on the lid.

The TD4 is a typical common-rail diesel.
The TD5 isn't - it uses mechanically struck Delphi injectors.

CharlesY

So is that a no? LOL

My mistake, i did think the TD5 was a common rail:doh:

Taffy · Oct 14, 2010

thanks guys for sharing the news and how to set up for used engine oil unbelieveble! right I will try it out. I been using biodeisel fo couple months and it is great clean smoke hardly any smoke my local mot (range rver owner) smiled and said cooking oil!!

but I stopped using cos the nearest filling bio station was 12 months away etc. but now used engin oil I am friends with local garage owner I will ask him if i can have his used oil!! thanks

CharlesY · Oct 14, 2010

Taffy said:
thanks guys for sharing the news and how to set up for used engine oil unbelieveble! right I will try it out. I been using biodeisel fo couple months and it is great clean smoke hardly any smoke my local mot (range rver owner) smiled and said cooking oil!!

but I stopped using cos the nearest filling bio station was 12 months away etc. but now used engin oil I am friends with local garage owner I will ask him if i can have his used oil!! thanks

Watch out if it's a TD5 because sometimes they won't like used oil from garages because there may be PETROL in it. If there's a lot of petrol it can boil in the fuel gallery and cause problems. But a LITTLE petrol won't do any harm.

FILTER FILTER FILTER!!!!

Make sure the oil for fuel has been FILTERED properly, ESPECIALLY for a TD5.

CharlesY

Landie_Man · Oct 14, 2010

How vital is it to maticulously filter for a 2 and a quarter? I was thinking of filtering a good 3 or 4 times

Shifty1962 · Oct 15, 2010

It does not matter how many times you filter it but it is important to filter it properly. You can filter it twenty times through a kitchen sieve and be wasting your time as your on board filter will quickly clog.
If you pre filter to the same standard as you on board fuel filter (normally 5 to 10 microns) then you will not have any problems.

Taffy · Oct 15, 2010

My engine is 200tdi good old faithful beast !

Taffy · Oct 15, 2010

Shifty1962 said:
It does not matter how many times you filter it but it is important to filter it properly. You can filter it twenty times through a kitchen sieve and be wasting your time as your on board filter will quickly clog.
If you pre filter to the same standard as you on board fuel filter (normally 5 to 10 microns) then you will not have any problems.

So normal starboard fuel filter two of them before putting into tank ok

discomania · Oct 15, 2010

Shifty1962 said:
It does not matter how many times you filter it but it is important to filter it properly. You can filter it twenty times through a kitchen sieve and be wasting your time as your on board filter will quickly clog.
If you pre filter to the same standard as you on board fuel filter (normally 5 to 10 microns) then you will not have any problems.

Exactly - ONCE at 5 to 10 Microns and thats it ready.

Sometimes a good idea to do it in stages if it's particularly dirty or your fine filter will get choked quickly.

Shifty1962 · Oct 15, 2010

discomania said:
Exactly - ONCE at 5 to 10 Microns and thats it ready.

Sometimes a good idea to do it in stages if it's particularly dirty or your fine filter will get choked quickly.

Thats exactly why I have both 100 micron and 50 micron filters with washable elements, and 5-10 micron disposable canister type filters similar to what you find on JCBs or marine diesel engines.
I can filter 200 litres before the larger filters need cleaning and the disposable filters are good for more than 2000 litres.

Heavy Breather · Oct 19, 2010

If i was to get used engine oil from my local garage isn't it likely to have gear oil, power steering oil etc etc mixed in with it? Would these extra's cause any damage?

CharlesY · Oct 19, 2010

Heavy Breather said:
If i was to get used engine oil from my local garage isn't it likely to have gear oil, power steering oil etc etc mixed in with it? Would these extra's cause any damage?

No they won't, as long as you ensure the oil is about the same sloshiness (viscosity) as diesel, or not too much thicker.

If you were tipping in this stuff 50-50 with pump fuel it would be just fine.

For burning, or using in a diesel, oil is oil.

CharlesY

Heavy Breather · Oct 21, 2010

CharlesY said:
No they won't, as long as you ensure the oil is about the same sloshiness (viscosity) as diesel, or not too much thicker.

If you were tipping in this stuff 50-50 with pump fuel it would be just fine.

For burning, or using in a diesel, oil is oil.

CharlesY

Thanks CharlesY, with diesel at 120p cutting that to 60p brings a warm glow (maybe i'll let the wife have the heating on LOL)

CharlesY · Oct 21, 2010

Heavy Breather said:
Thanks CharlesY, with diesel at 120p cutting that to 60p brings a warm glow (maybe i'll let the wife have the heating on LOL)

Remember, FILTER FILTER FILTER!!!!

And thus you have half-price fuel and it is LEGAL to use 2,500 litres of reclaimed oil tax free.

CharlesY

Heavy Breather · Oct 23, 2010

Is there ANYTHING i can use in the TD4 (apart from firelighters)

CharlesY · Oct 24, 2010

Heavy Breather said:
Is there ANYTHING i can use in the TD4 (apart from firelighters)

YES ..... same sort of brew, but you must FILTER FILTER FILTER, and make sure the fuel isn't too thick.

It is always best to avoid petrol in the mix (if possible) but a little won't do any harm.

CharlesY

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