Cellular Dynamic steering dampers - worth it?

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OK...but why do you think the LR product would be better? It will be the same spec as the Monroe and, possibly, the Britpart one shown up that page! The only reason it is 5 times the prices is because it has a Land Rover sticker on it...unless you know different??

Pretty much spot on :)

I wouldnt entertain the £8 one but the Monroe one is OEM spec without the OEM pricetag. You dont need to spend LR prices to get LR quality. People think just because something is cheaper its **** but thats not always the case.
 
Pretty much spot on :)

I wouldnt entertain the £8 one but the Monroe one is OEM spec without the OEM pricetag. You dont need to spend LR prices to get LR quality. People think just because something is cheaper its **** but thats not always the case.

Very true but the Monroe damper has lasted eighteen months on my car then started leaking. Lots of stuff that used to be made here or in France and Germany was cheaper than genuine and brilliant years ago, not since they contracted the manufacture of most parts to Chinky land they aren't.
 
A good point, well made wammers. But I do think the Cellular Dynamics one will be of a higher quality than the OEM-spec ones, even the LR one, so for £25 I'll risk it. If it breaks, I'll send it back for a refund!
 
A good point, well made wammers. But I do think the Cellular Dynamics one will be of a higher quality than the OEM-spec ones, even the LR one, so for £25 I'll risk it. If it breaks, I'll send it back for a refund!

Postage will be high back to China. :D:D:D
 
Not my problem, it comes from an Island of 4x4's apparently!! ;)


If cellular dynamics (a bit of foam rubber) replaces the gas in a shocker to stop the oil from forming bubbles. How does it work in a steering damper that does not have gas in it?
 
there not gas there oil filled ,foam is used instead ,and i have fitted quite a few they are imo better than std dampers ,yes i wouldnt fit the britpart pattern one unless all there was or bearmach cheapy ,not worrying at all
 
Do steering dampers normally only have oil then, not gas? Even on the Britpart website they refer to the steering damper as a "shock absorber in the suspension system" - worrying!

Britpart Cellular Dynamic - Steering damper - DC6005 - Land Rover Parts Catalogue

As explained before steering dampers are neutral they just damp equally in both directions. They just work on the principal of a piston with small holes in it being forced through oil. The oil passing through the holes gives the resistance. Shock absorbers damp mostly on the rebound. Little resistance on compression then a one way valve closes and they have much more resistance on the rebound. Gas shockers will expand when you remove their spring retainer because of the gas pressure in them. The gas pressure gives a little more compression resistance. The gas pressure on the oil stops the oil from boiling just as pressure in the cooling system does. Shockers work very hard and air bubbles forming in the oil will reduce their efficiency. Steering Dampers are filled totally with oil only. They cannot have an air gap like shockers can because they work on their side, they do not work anywhere near as hard as shockers and will never get hot enough to boil the oil. I have not gone into it much but the cellular dynamic shockers have foam rubber in them instead of gas as i understand it. They maybe very good shockers i don't know, have never used them. James rates them so will take his word for it. You use what you want to it's you that's buying it.
 
Every few months my "fairness" bone impels me to set the record straight. First however let me just say I do not work for Britpart but I am about to defend them.

1. As James says they are one of the main consolidators for LR parts. They sell all over the world and they do not sell to the public; trade, military or government only. It would be unlikely that they got to be this big by being rubbish at what they do.

2. They offer genuine, OEM, pattern and own brand. 4 choices, take your pick and pay your money. But when you pick something for 20% the price of genuine, please don't then embarrass yourself by moaning. What did you expect?

3. That said, their customer service and care is excellent. Some years ago I bought an alternator from reseller in Singapore. There was something wrong with it and one thing leading to another, the seller put me in touch with Britpart directly. Very straight forward interaction.
ME: Something wrong with this alternator.
THEM: Sorry to hear that, let us send you a new one. Where would you like it sent?
ME: Do you want this one back?
THEM: Lets get a new one out to you first and then think about it.

3. That said they were at one point sourcing so cheap that the quality did suffer and complaints did rise. Particularly on their own-brand stuff and especially with regarded to moulded or injected rubber and plastic bits. It looks like they sorted that, changed suppliers or something. Quality has improved (and prices have risen). The damage has been done, some people will forever more refer to them as ****part (!) but they do now offer a 24 month guarantee on their stuff. Just to compare, the official LR dealer near me only offers 6.

4. Their website is ****. They copy-pasted the stuff about cellular dampers from the shock absorber section to the steering damper section word for word!

All that said, re the actual steering damper, as Tony and others here have said, they are not critical provided everything else is up to scratch but since this is the real world and everything else will not be perfectly up to scratch they are an important safety and comfort feature. They should damp equally in both directions. Logical really that one! The point about oil is that if it gets very hot it will lose viscosity, hence reducing damping. And if it gets hot and gets churned around a lot it will get lathery. Provided of course there is also air. In a cellular damper the block of foam does two things, it gives the oil more room to spread and so to cool and it reduces the tendancy to lather. They are a good idea in suspension shock absorbers, especially if these are going to be worked rather hard. For the same reason however they are a bit of overkill in steering dampers unless you are doing some serious off-roading or rallying.
 
Well....I went for the OEM-spec Monroe steering damper in the end. I can't see how a bit of foam will improve a steering damper to be honest, so whilst I'd consider their shock absorbers, I saved myself a tenner and went for the Monroe to match my shock absorbers.

Will let you know if I notice any difference :)
 
Hi,
I bought one of these Britpart steering Dampers (Foam - Cellular dynamic) and new front shocks two years ago. Within months the rubber bushings provided (yelow polyurethane?) fell apart and had to be replaced. I have recently had severe vibration in the car and removed the steering damper, this appears to only dampen movement in one direction so its getting the boot. Unfortunately I am not sure if it did this originally. The shocks are also suspect as I have bad vibration when hitting bumps. I have yet to investigate the shocks. I will cut up the steering damper and provide some pics and feed back.
 
Hi,
I bought one of these Britpart steering Dampers (Foam - Cellular dynamic) and new front shocks two years ago. Within months the rubber bushings provided (yelow polyurethane?) fell apart and had to be replaced. I have recently had severe vibration in the car and removed the steering damper, this appears to only dampen movement in one direction so its getting the boot. Unfortunately I am not sure if it did this originally. The shocks are also suspect as I have bad vibration when hitting bumps. I have yet to investigate the shocks. I will cut up the steering damper and provide some pics and feed back.

****part strikes again!!
 
Just dont go for the DeCarbon steering dampers! I got one and they're not cheap at around 30 quid. Being gas charged they naturally want to extend, causing my range rover to now always want to turn right!! Not bad usually until you hit the motorway when your constantly having to put a bit of pressure to the left, after a while does tire your arm somewhat..
 
Just dont go for the DeCarbon steering dampers! I got one and they're not cheap at around 30 quid. Being gas charged they naturally want to extend, causing my range rover to now always want to turn right!! Not bad usually until you hit the motorway when your constantly having to put a bit of pressure to the left, after a while does tire your arm somewhat..


You must of got the Eu/north american model. They make a right hand drive for Uk and other right hand drive countries
 
You must of got the Eu/north american model. They make a right hand drive for Uk and other right hand drive countries

John it is absolute stupidity to have a gas charged expanding steering damper. They must be neutral and damp equally in both directions with no bias either way. Think someone has fooked up big style.
 
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John it is absolute stupidity to have a gas charged expanding steering damper. They must be neutral and damp equally in both directions with no bias either way. Think someone has fooked up big style.
Yea no **** , was just yanking his chain:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: as someone dosen't know what they is doing
 
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