BFG AT's

'97 3 door 300 Tdi manual Discovery.

Anyone know where I can get a pair of BFG 31 x 105 R 15 BFG AT's reasonably
priced, or any dealers reading? We only need the front two, 'cos they wear
so friggin' well .. Also, and this might sound stupid, but we're only
replacing the front two tyres at the moment, they are _much_ more worn than
the rears. Would anyone suggest swapping the new tyres for the rears, and
putting the worn rears on the front? Is this a false economy and would
anyone suggest we swap all four, and have decent reasons to do so?

We are mostly on-road at the moment, with maybe only Saturdays off-roading,
hard stuff, mostly sandy and rocky with some mud, ruts and tree roots but
not competition level. (yet)

In a couple of months time we'll be towing the caravan all round UK (racing
model cars) but we still need decent off-road ability, though mainly
grass/mud as we invariably get stuck into the ****tiest corner of the field
'cos we have a Landie not a motorhome ..

We'll still be off-roading at 'play' events and maybe a couple of RTV's too
...

We also need to replace the exhaust, downpipe back, so if anyone has any
deals going on 'zorsts I'd be interested.

Regards and all that ..

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Would anyone suggest swapping the new tyres for the rears, and
> putting the worn rears on the front? Is this a false economy and would
> anyone suggest we swap all four, and have decent reasons to do so?

The fronts wear before the rears, so I'm told, because LR have a cunning
system of different diff ratios front and rear which allows more of the
drive to go to the front than the rear unless you diff lock. Therefore, I
always put my new tyres on the front and the best of the rest on the back.

TonyB

On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:14:19 -0000, Paul - xxx wrote:

> Would anyone suggest swapping the new tyres for the rears, and
> putting the worn rears on the front?

See the thread "Tyres.........." in uk.rec.cars.4x4.

I definately think that (all other things being equal) that new to the
rear is the way to go. I do feel that new on the front was a
contributary factor in a recent wall and flip incident. YMMV.

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In message <[email protected]>, TonyB
<[email protected]> writes
>Would anyone suggest swapping the new tyres for the rears, and
>> putting the worn rears on the front? Is this a false economy and would
>> anyone suggest we swap all four, and have decent reasons to do so?
>
>The fronts wear before the rears, so I'm told, because LR have a cunning
>system of different diff ratios front and rear which allows more of the
>drive to go to the front than the rear unless you diff lock. Therefore, I
>always put my new tyres on the front and the best of the rest on the back.
>
>TonyB
>
>
Or maybe it's because the fronts do more work going round corners?
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:12:59 +0000 (UTC), TonyB wrote:

> The fronts wear before the rears, so I'm told, because LR have a
> cunning system of different diff ratios front and rear which allows
> more of the drive to go to the front than the rear unless you diff
> lock.

Nothing to do with the fact that the front spend rather a lot of time
making a couple of tonnes plus change direction? As well as being
driven...

> Therefore, I always put my new tyres on the front and the best of
> the rest on the back.

I used to as well but I don't think I will from now on. The wall 'n
flip and front/back swap have recently convinced me that more grip at
the back is preferable.

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Dave Liquorice wrote:

>
> I used to as well but I don't think I will from now on. The wall 'n
> flip and front/back swap have recently convinced me that more grip at
> the back is preferable.

I always understood it (college taught) that it is preferable to have maximum grip on the driving wheels
for reasons that are obvious in my mind? There is a good case for maximum grip on front in all cases if
its raining with puddles on a motorway etc.

You flipped etc in a front wheel drive car? how do you think max grip on rear would help you?

Of course in a real world all grips should be good anyhow, but I'm interested to know what you think?

Ta

Nige


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On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 21:26:14 -0000, Nige wrote:

> You flipped etc in a front wheel drive car? how do you think max
> grip on rear would help you?

Yes, on a slippy road surface. More grip at the back end may have
stopped the said back end wagging about like a dead fish in the
seconds preceeding the wall 'n flip...

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In message <[email protected]>, Nige
<[email protected]> writes
> always understood it (college taught) that it is preferable to have maximum grip on the driving wheels
>for reasons that are obvious in my mind?
<Snip>
So where does that leave you with permanent four wheel drive?

It's a question of whether you can best handle sudden gross over steer
or under steer.
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:19:37 +0000, hugh wrote:

> It's a question of whether you can best handle sudden gross over
> steer or under steer.

I obviously have a problem with sudden gross over steer... Would
applying power rather than trying to correct via the steering have
helped? I think it would by dragging the recalcitrant back end into
line behind the fronts but I have no wish to try the experiment again.

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On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:14:19 -0000, "Paul - xxx"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>'97 3 door 300 Tdi manual Discovery.
>
>Anyone know where I can get a pair of BFG 31 x 105 R 15 BFG AT's reasonably
>priced,

Just spotted this one on that auction site, dunno if its any good for
u or not

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7954369511

Chris
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Chris Ward composed the following;:
> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:14:19 -0000, "Paul - xxx"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> '97 3 door 300 Tdi manual Discovery.
>>
>> Anyone know where I can get a pair of BFG 31 x 105 R 15 BFG AT's
>> reasonably priced,
>
> Just spotted this one on that auction site, dunno if its any good for
> u or not
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7954369511

Heheheh, not bad .. I didn't think of ebay ..

Many thanks.


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