B + E Trailer Test

steve's P38 RR · Jan 1, 2011

Langers said:
You might be interested to know that if your dad sits in the passenger seat, you're provisionally entitled to the B+E license (so you could in fact do the towing, with L plates attached to the front and rear). However, on your own, it would be illegal for you to tow it even empty.

Thanks for that thats really good info, I'll get some pratice in then, and def get my test done this summer.

gil · Jan 2, 2011

if the MAM is over 3.5 t does that then mean you need C+E?

Ian Griffiths · Jan 2, 2011

If the vehicle MAM is over 3.5t then it will fall in to category C1 up to 7.5t and category C beyond that.

There is no upper limit to train MAM in B+E although the trailer MAM must not exceed the towing capacity of the tow vehicle.

There is a limit of 8250kg train for C1+E based on pre-1997 grandfather rights, as indicated by the 107 endorsement in section 12 of the photo licence.

There is a limit of 12000kg train for C1+E if taken since 1997 as a discrete test.

nick2303 · Jan 2, 2011

so as long as you passed yr test b4 1997 you get the 8520kg limit for combined loaded weight of yr car trailer..

if ya passed after 1997..
* a vehicle up to 3.5 tonnes (3,500 kilograms) maximum gross weight towing a trailer of up to 750 kilograms maximum gross weight (up to 4,250 kilograms in total)
* a trailer over 750 kilograms maximum gross weight as long as it is no more than the unladen or 'kerb' weight of the towing vehicle (up to 3,500 kilograms in total)

sorry just trying to make sure i got it right in my ed...

passed my test prior to 1997 so am a bit senile...

Pikey · Jan 2, 2011

nick2303 said:
so as long as you passed yr test b4 1997 you get the 8250kg limit for combined loaded weight of yr car trailer..

if ya passed after 1997..
* a vehicle up to 3.5 tonnes (3,500 kilograms) maximum gross weight towing a trailer of up to 750 kilograms maximum gross weight (up to 4,250 kilograms in total)
* a trailer over 750 kilograms maximum gross weight as long as it is no more than the unladen or 'kerb' weight of the towing vehicle (up to 3,500 kilograms in total)

sorry just trying to make sure i got it right in my ed...

passed my test prior to 1997 so am a bit senile...

Edited for accuracy as it int 8520kg??

nick2303 · Jan 2, 2011

sory senile and dyslexic... lol

nick2303 · Jan 2, 2011

oh and thanks for the correction...

johnny curt 1 · Jan 2, 2011

so as far as the licence codes go i got b......b1.....fkp so what does this mean

goonarmy · Jan 2, 2011

johnny curt 1 said:
so as far as the licence codes go i got b......b1.....fkp so what does this mean

means ya cant tow unless you either do the maths above or the b+e test, and ya cant drive a minibus(unless its for a charity or summit apprently).View your driving licence details online : Directgov - Motoring has all the proper answers

Trewey · Jan 2, 2011

my licence is so old and tattered that I aint got any of these fancy letters on it.
so I'll carry on drivin what I like.

Beneagles · Jan 2, 2011

:hijacked:...but only slightly....

Anybody got the "Full set"? - ie, Full Motorbike, Car, Bus and Lorry? I believe it is quite an exclusive club.

thought it was mine! · Jan 2, 2011

dont think you can hold psv coach lic. and hgv due to driver hours.

Beneagles · Jan 2, 2011

thought it was mine! said:
dont think you can hold psv coach lic. and hgv due to driver hours.

;Course you can! Having the entitlement - and using them - are totally different. I have held C+E since 2004 and D+E since early 2005. (Doris says no to me taking the bike test....huff!!)

Trewey · Jan 2, 2011

Beneagles said:
:hijacked:...but only slightly.... Anybody got the "Full set"? - ie, Full Motorbike, Car, Bus and Lorry? I believe it is quite an exclusive club.

mine says I can drive a "Track laying vehicle"
whatever one of them is.

G-man · Jan 2, 2011

Treworgey 90 said:
mine says I can drive a "Track laying vehicle"
whatever one of them is.

isn't that an H licence i.e. you can drive tanks etc

Adz · Jan 2, 2011

Ian Griffiths said:
although the trailer MAM must not exceed the towing capacity of the tow vehicle.

Do you have a link to the legislation on that bit please Ian? I can't find it anywhere.

robint · Jan 2, 2011

G-man said:
isn't that an H licence i.e. you can drive tanks etc

i got that on me licence too !
i fink the only thing i ant got is a forklift licence

Trewey · Jan 2, 2011

G-man said:
isn't that an H licence i.e. you can drive tanks etc

well, I did spend a day driving a chieftan and a scorpion around Sailsbury plain when I were 18.

paul_c · Jan 2, 2011

Adz said:
Do you have a link to the legislation on that bit please Ian? I can't find it anywhere.

The trailer MAM can exceed the vehicle towing capacity, but if so you cannot fully load the trailer - it must always weigh below the max towing capacity of the vehicle. It hardly ever applies for LR though, because the heaviest trailers with overrun brakes can be, is 3500kg, which is the towing capacity of most Land Rovers.

thought it was mine! · Jan 2, 2011

I am sure the old man had to choose between them when went for new lic.Might be wrong tho (which one he wanted on lic.)

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