Auction soon to end: 1994 110 soft-top with upgrades

Ebay UK item number 280007529495

All I've had so far are muppet bidders putting in £250 quid bids then
emailing me in the last 24 hours telling me that I might as well give
it to them because it'll cost thousands to put back to as-new
condition. If you want something new, buy something new FFS!

Does anyone know of any less muppet-infested places to sell a truck?
Preferrably somewhere where there are people who don't want a
pose-mobile or something to do the school run in. I've tried 4x4web
but all I've had from there are people asking me what make and model
it is (clearly listed in title), do I have any photographs (plenty in
item listing), what "color" it is (seen in pictures) and that they
have "dollars" waiting, i.e. spammers looking for me to verify that the
address is valid.

*sigh*

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Ian Rawlings wrote:
> Ebay UK item number 280007529495
>
> All I've had so far are muppet bidders putting in £250 quid bids then
> emailing me in the last 24 hours telling me that I might as well give
> it to them because it'll cost thousands to put back to as-new
> condition. If you want something new, buy something new FFS!
>
> Does anyone know of any less muppet-infested places to sell a truck?
> Preferrably somewhere where there are people who don't want a
> pose-mobile or something to do the school run in. I've tried 4x4web
> but all I've had from there are people asking me what make and model
> it is (clearly listed in title), do I have any photographs (plenty in
> item listing), what "color" it is (seen in pictures) and that they
> have "dollars" waiting, i.e. spammers looking for me to verify that the
> address is valid.
>
> *sigh*

Your high BIN will put the vast majority of people off. If I had
the choice of yours or this one - 220008928700 - I know which
I'd choose. Now where's a spare £4.5k when you need it!! :-(

Sorry Ian, but you never get back what you've spent on it on
eBay - most people just don't care! My (ex) P38 had £1000's spent
on it the year before I bought it - new trans box, new clutch/flywheel
re-condition air con. new EAS compressor plus loads more - can't
remember exactly how much was spent in that year, but it was well
over £3k and all with receipts. I actually got it cheaper than many
others around.

I don't think eBay is any better or worse than anywhere else for selling
a car to be honest - you get muppets everywhere - especially when
selling a car for whatever reason. I bought a car from a dealer on
eBay who had quite a few -ve's. He was the nicest most decent bloke
I'd met in a long time, and I have no idea how anyone could give
him -ve, it's just that you get complete muppets buying cars.
They'll turn up and say "oh, I didn't want a silver one" when the
photos showed it as silver and it was described as such!

Have you tried the magazines? - more likely to get someone who cares
about the stuff you have done to it in there so you should be able
to get a better price.

Matt

"Ian Rawlings" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ebay UK item number 280007529495
>
> All I've had so far are muppet bidders putting in £250 quid bids then
> emailing me in the last 24 hours telling me that I might as well give
> it to them because it'll cost thousands to put back to as-new
> condition. If you want something new, buy something new FFS!
>
> Does anyone know of any less muppet-infested places to sell a truck?
> Preferrably somewhere where there are people who don't want a
> pose-mobile or something to do the school run in. I've tried 4x4web
> but all I've had from there are people asking me what make and model
> it is (clearly listed in title), do I have any photographs (plenty in
> item listing), what "color" it is (seen in pictures) and that they
> have "dollars" waiting, i.e. spammers looking for me to verify that the
> address is valid.
>
> *sigh*
>
> --

Well anywhere you buy or sell in cyberspace you will encounter 419 scammers
and their scummy brethren as a matter of course. As a buyer I always put a
small bid in early in the auction to show good faith my next bid to the
limit of my budget is placed right at the death this prevents me getting
carried away or starting a bidding war with some other buyer.Do not accept
bankers cheques there is a lot of bother with fakes and because in this age
where you can buy a company in the blink of an eyelid online the laughably
inefficient banks can take two weeks to tell you that you have been turned
over and that you have no claim against them. Have a look at
http://www.419eater.com/
to see how the community is biting back plus if you do get the silly offers
cheque for £xk more than auction type scam these folk would like to know

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In the event that you fail to include the full headers, the information is
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Have you thought of Autotrader not cheap or fish4cars

Derek

On 2006-07-23, Matthew Maddock <[email protected]> wrote:

> Your high BIN will put the vast majority of people off. If I had
> the choice of yours or this one - 220008928700 - I know which
> I'd choose. Now where's a spare £4.5k when you need it!! :-(

Personally I think the beefier engine, recon gearbox and transfer box
plus all the other rebuilt stuff and recent big services make up for
mine lacking a winch, pretty paint or a hard top, but I prefer a
vehicle to run well than to look the part.

The buy it now price is set 500 quid more than the reserve, and is
there to allow people to bypass the bidding, although I've not seen
any so if I relist it in the future I doubt I'll bother with the buy
it now option. I certainly don't want to let it go for monkey money,
which seems to be the requirement on ebay. Max bid so far is just
over £1,000 FFS.

I'm not trying to get back what I spent on it, I'd have to put it up
for over 15K to get that, it cost me 8k to buy the thing in 2001.
I've looked at similar trucks and over 4K seems a fair price to me.
It seems that people value pretty paintwork more than a good set of
innards though, which I personally find pathetic. Not one of my cars
looks pretty but they all run like a charm and are well maintained,
even my daily drive is covered in bird **** but will run until the sun
goes out.

At a local landy independent they had some berk come in with a
polished Defender who was most miffed that they valued it at £1,000,
down to the totally ****ed chassis and drivetrain. The owner had
spent thousands keeping it looking pretty and the vehicle had rotted
out underneath its little dainty dress. What a ****.

> Have you tried the magazines? - more likely to get someone who cares
> about the stuff you have done to it in there so you should be able
> to get a better price.

I'll be having a crack at those soon I reckon, selling on the net
appears to be a waste of time, it seems it's too easy for people to
just click a button and then change their minds later when someone
puts up a different truck with more cup holders.

I still can't get over the fact that no-one has even asked a sensible
question, let alone thought about coming to see it. I'm amazed that
people are just prepared to click the button on a car they know
nothing about.

Grr, rant over, for now at least.

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Ian Rawlings wrote:
> On 2006-07-23, Matthew Maddock
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Your high BIN will put the vast majority of people off. If I had
>> the choice of yours or this one - 220008928700 - I know which
>> I'd choose. Now where's a spare £4.5k when you need it!! :-(
>
> Personally I think the beefier engine, recon gearbox and transfer box
> plus all the other rebuilt stuff and recent big services make up for
> mine lacking a winch, pretty paint or a hard top, but I prefer a
> vehicle to run well than to look the part.
>
> The buy it now price is set 500 quid more than the reserve, and is
> there to allow people to bypass the bidding, although I've not seen
> any so if I relist it in the future I doubt I'll bother with the buy
> it now option. I certainly don't want to let it go for monkey money,
> which seems to be the requirement on ebay. Max bid so far is just
> over £1,000 FFS.
>
> I'm not trying to get back what I spent on it, I'd have to put it up
> for over 15K to get that, it cost me 8k to buy the thing in 2001.
> I've looked at similar trucks and over 4K seems a fair price to me.
> It seems that people value pretty paintwork more than a good set of
> innards though, which I personally find pathetic. Not one of my cars
> looks pretty but they all run like a charm and are well maintained,
> even my daily drive is covered in bird **** but will run until the sun
> goes out.
>
> At a local landy independent they had some berk come in with a
> polished Defender who was most miffed that they valued it at £1,000,
> down to the totally ****ed chassis and drivetrain. The owner had
> spent thousands keeping it looking pretty and the vehicle had rotted
> out underneath its little dainty dress. What a ****.
>
>> Have you tried the magazines? - more likely to get someone who cares
>> about the stuff you have done to it in there so you should be able
>> to get a better price.
>
> I'll be having a crack at those soon I reckon, selling on the net
> appears to be a waste of time, it seems it's too easy for people to
> just click a button and then change their minds later when someone
> puts up a different truck with more cup holders.
>
> I still can't get over the fact that no-one has even asked a sensible
> question, let alone thought about coming to see it. I'm amazed that
> people are just prepared to click the button on a car they know
> nothing about.
>
> Grr, rant over, for now at least.

Think you've hit the nail on the head, Ian, people want to buy nice clean shiny
motors (for next to nothing). How many purveyors of horseless carriages populate
their lots with rusting dirty motors? none that stay in business more than a
couple of weeks. You nor I care too much what it looks like, we appreciate its
mechanical integrity, but we ain't buying!

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"He who says it cannot be done would be well advised not to interrupt
her doing it."

If the answer is offensive maybe the question was inappropriate

The fiend of my fiend is my enema!

> Personally I think the beefier engine, recon gearbox and transfer box
> plus all the other rebuilt stuff and recent big services make up for
> mine lacking a winch, pretty paint or a hard top, but I prefer a
> vehicle to run well than to look the part.

That wasn't quite the point I was trying to make, if I had the auctions
side by side and saw one BIN at £4500 and another with a start price
of £4550 no bids (and only 1h to go!) with the 2nd one being 4 years
younger I wouldn't consider bidding on the first one. Whereas if you
had not put a BIN on, then I would consider a bid because your reserve
might be set low. However, having a BIN is a strong indication as to
your reserve, and (rightly or wrongly) that puts a lot of people off
bidding.

> I'm not trying to get back what I spent on it, I'd have to put it up
> for over 15K to get that, it cost me 8k to buy the thing in 2001.
> I've looked at similar trucks and over 4K seems a fair price to me.
> It seems that people value pretty paintwork more than a good set of
> innards though, which I personally find pathetic.

I know what you're saying, but that is the problem, most people prefer
to look the part rather than have something that might actually be
slightly more useful. Let's be honest - how many people actually drive
(even Defenders) off-road. OK - this group may be an exception and I am
sure there are plenty of people who go off-road (properly!) in AFL -
myself included - even in the P38 I took it on some serious off-road
activity, including up Walna Scar - but we are the exception rather than
the rule. Most people want something that looks the part, but hasn't
actually been abused off-road!

> I'll be having a crack at those soon I reckon, selling on the net
> appears to be a waste of time, it seems it's too easy for people to
> just click a button and then change their minds later when someone
> puts up a different truck with more cup holders.

I think that is the best option - you are far more likely to get someone
who knows what you have done to it is worthwhile, and more likely to
get an enthusiast who values the vehicle for more than just its looks.

Matt

Ian Rawlings wrote:
> Ebay UK item number 280007529495
>
> All I've had so far are muppet bidders putting in £250 quid bids
> then emailing me in the last 24 hours telling me that I might as
> well give it to them because it'll cost thousands to put back to
> as-new condition. If you want something new, buy something new FFS!
>
> Does anyone know of any less muppet-infested places to sell a truck?
> Preferrably somewhere where there are people who don't want a
> pose-mobile or something to do the school run in. I've tried 4x4web
> but all I've had from there are people asking me what make and model
> it is (clearly listed in title), do I have any photographs (plenty
> in item listing), what "color" it is (seen in pictures) and that
> they have "dollars" waiting, i.e. spammers looking for me to verify
> that the address is valid.
>
> *sigh*

Ian, sorry matey, but your BIN is way too high & i think your reserve is too. You have to advertise to
the market you aim to sell it to. Idiot tyrekickers on eBay dont want a well used & not perfect LR, they
want it mint & will only pay bottom dollar for that.

Your average dipstick on eBay wont even want it for off roading mate.

On 2006-07-23, Nige <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ian, sorry matey, but your BIN is way too high & i think your reserve is too.

Well, it's worth at least 4K, if ebayers don't want to pay that then
fine, I'll have to find some other outlet. Darned cheapskates!

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Ian Rawlings wrote:
> On 2006-07-23, Nige <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Ian, sorry matey, but your BIN is way too high & i think your
>> reserve is too.
>
> Well, it's worth at least 4K, if ebayers don't want to pay that then
> fine, I'll have to find some other outlet. Darned cheapskates!

It is worth 4k, but the kind of knobs on ebay wont pay that mate.

**** 'em. try elswhere, i would.

"Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ian Rawlings wrote:
>> On 2006-07-23, Nige <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Ian, sorry matey, but your BIN is way too high & i think your
>>> reserve is too.
>>
>> Well, it's worth at least 4K, if ebayers don't want to pay that then
>> fine, I'll have to find some other outlet. Darned cheapskates!
>
> It is worth 4k, but the kind of knobs on ebay wont pay that mate.
>
> **** 'em. try elswhere, i would.
> Hi I saw the advert and without wanting upset the seller, the bit that put
> me off was the high mileage and that it was a soft top. Everything else
> did not worry me except maybe how much longer will the engine last.
Alan

Ian Rawlings <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny about:
> Ebay UK item number 280007529495
>
> All I've had so far are muppet bidders putting in £250 quid bids then
> emailing me in the last 24 hours telling me that I might as well give
> it to them because it'll cost thousands to put back to as-new
> condition. If you want something new, buy something new FFS!
>
> Does anyone know of any less muppet-infested places to sell a truck?
> Preferrably somewhere where there are people who don't want a
> pose-mobile or something to do the school run in. I've tried 4x4web
> but all I've had from there are people asking me what make and model
> it is (clearly listed in title), do I have any photographs (plenty in
> item listing), what "color" it is (seen in pictures) and that they
> have "dollars" waiting, i.e. spammers looking for me to verify that
> the address is valid.
>
> *sigh*

Mud club dude! Well worth the nothing It'll cost. ;-)

It's also full of people who know what a gem it will be.

Lee D

Thats www.mud-club.co.uk

On 2006-07-23, Lee_D <[email protected]> wrote:

> Mud club dude! Well worth the nothing It'll cost. ;-)

OK, will have a crack, the two paid-for options have been a waste so
far. I'll try the local rags too, perhaps someone will actually come
round to have a look before claiming they'll pay for it..

> It's also full of people who know what a gem it will be.

Or at least people who won't be wittering on about vegetation
scratches dulling the paint, I hope.

Cheers for the pointer, will have a bash.

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