Anyone got a Height Guage set?

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Anyone got a Height Guage set? LRT-60-003 for the P38

Could do with borrowing a set -
 

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Irishrover said:
They are only used with Test Book adjustments. Don't need them with other systems.....just measure from the centre of the wheel to the wheel arch and adjust to suit.
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Well I have the T4 Testbook so need the blocks. The diagram supplied might enable me to make some in alloy (don't see why they have to be nylon as long as they will take the weight). Hope they are not too expensive to make this way.
 
i have made a couple of sets out of steel and done quite a few calibrations worked no problems
 
Irishrover said:
Would have thought it would be cheaper and quicker to get the EAS software and lead off Ebay.
Lot less hassle than raising the car to fit the blocks and removing them afterwards.
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The fact is I have the TestBook T4 system and want to do the job by the book. I have seen the results of a couple of cars done with free software and one was badly done and unsafe in my opinion. The chap was trying to get an ultra low ride and massive height for offroading and showing off. One corner was fighting the other and at his max height he had pulled an air spring out. I am not against people having a go just be sensible. If you look at the drawing for the blocks it would be quite simple, assuming cost? to have different height lengths for customising the height to sensible limits. I have a very good friend down the road with P38 and the free software and he has got his heights to his satifaction after a lot of experimenting mind, he thinks I a'm daft to go the blocks route as well! But as I am working on customers cars I don't want a massive compensation claim from someone because I used an unathorised system. If its my private car that's my problem!
 
What makes you think that Test Book is the "Be all and end all" of P38 diagnostics. It is restrictive and designed to give limited access to the systems fitted to the P38. Is it because the Stealers use it//..so it must be good? It is good for them in somuch as they can go so far with it's limitations then charge people for a replacement ECU that can be accessed by other software, then they send the ECU back for reprogramming and sell it on to the next idiot for the price of a new unit. It's so good that Stealers send their BECMs to me for unlocking (Cos Test Book can't do it) rather than send them back to Lucas and make a massive profit passing them on as "Exchange" units.
Test Book does no more than "Other" software..it just loads values to the EAS ECU for the suspension heights based on the axle/body relationship which is taken from lowering the body on to the "Gauges".
Who needs £200 worth of gauges when a tape rule will do the same job??????
 
the free software is fine for adjusting the suspension. its only doing the same as the t4 or rovacom does but the gui is different.

the advantage of the blocks is that when the car is on them there is nothing left to interpretation. ive adjusted my suspension and to be honest it should be easier with blocks than tape measure but if you spend a little time the tape measure is accurate enough.

the blocks are made from nylon because of its resistance to wear and it wont damage then underneath of the car leading to rust point etc.

just make sure the chap who makes em uses a micrometer when checking em. also make a large block for the low position then extra blocks that sit on each other rather than seperate blocks as this will be quicker and cheaper.
 
gavbriggs said:
the free software is fine for adjusting the suspension. its only doing the same as the t4 or rovacom does but the gui is different.

the advantage of the blocks is that when the car is on them there is nothing left to interpretation. ive adjusted my suspension and to be honest it should be easier with blocks than tape measure but if you spend a little time the tape measure is accurate enough.

the blocks are made from nylon because of its resistance to wear and it wont damage then underneath of the car leading to rust point etc.

just make sure the chap who makes em uses a micrometer when checking em. also make a large block for the low position then extra blocks that sit on each other rather than seperate blocks as this will be quicker and cheaper.
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Yep that is good advice and I had already discussed this with my friend who has the engineering company (over a pint/3) he actually suggested making a base unit and adding what would be the equivilant of large shimms for different heights. But to get things moving will make a prototype to the original in steel or an alloy. His company deals in precision work mainly for the medical industry, has every lathe imaginable and is a petrol head! with his own race team (bikes) - this is the Isle of Man after all.
 
Irishrover said:
What makes you think that Test Book is the "Be all and end all" of P38 diagnostics. It is restrictive and designed to give limited access to the systems fitted to the P38. Is it because the Stealers use it//..so it must be good? It is good for them in somuch as they can go so far with it's limitations then charge people for a replacement ECU that can be accessed by other software, then they send the ECU back for reprogramming and sell it on to the next idiot for the price of a new unit. It's so good that Stealers send their BECMs to me for unlocking (Cos Test Book can't do it) rather than send them back to Lucas and make a massive profit passing them on as "Exchange" units.
Test Book does no more than "Other" software..it just loads values to the EAS ECU for the suspension heights based on the axle/body relationship which is taken from lowering the body on to the "Gauges".
Who needs £200 worth of gauges when a tape rule will do the same job??????
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Hi Irishrover. Just because the Stealers use the T4 TestBook doesn't mean you should label us independents who took the plunge and spent our childrens inheritance to purchase that kit when it became available. My own experience is that the local stealers may have had the same kit but they had/have poor people using it and its the way you interpret the information that is the key. Just look at some of the recent posts. Most of my initial customers came because the Stealer had done just what you said. There is a vast amount of info available with the T4, I have the experience to interpret it and give good advice. I live in a small community and reputation is important. 90% of my existing business is from recommendation. When de-regulation happened I was interested in Autologic but the rep was less than usless so I went for the T4. In hindsite I can see that Autologic and Rovercom (in a bit of a war at the time I was looking) do have some advantages for some upgrades and the ability to unlock BeCms but I have no problem in pointing my customers who need these upgrades to people such as yourself. Independants normally help each other.
 
well having worked at a maindealer and was trained on testbook, worked for a breaker and used a autologic and have used rovacom i chose the testbook when i set up on my own! but having used the ucm module for the latter vehicles it is crap and have bought a ids system to use on them.
going back to the testbook i was contacted by a chap who had had a autologic and a rovcom kits out to reintailise his becm which had been clonned and a new engine ecu and they could not get it started connected testbook and it was running in 5 min! so for me it is better than them and won me another customer!

having spent many a happy hour measuring the calibration on the eas equiped classics the block way is a better and more accurate way to set the system up and as it is between axle and body takes the guesing out of worn tyres and the guess that you have the centre of the wheel correctly seen the bodge and miscallibrated vehciles and people are amazed when they get it back and its perfect.

every diag system has it's upside and many down sides!
 
Visited the chap who is making them for me, seems a nylon type material that will not change its dimensions with temp/ moisture changes etc is what he will use. will let you know how it goes, will take a bit of time as he is off racing in Ireland at the weekend.
 
stopover said:
Visited the chap who is making them for me, seems a nylon type material that will not change its dimensions with temp/ moisture changes etc is what he will use. will let you know how it goes, will take a bit of time as he is off racing in Ireland at the weekend.
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hasnt he got a portable lathe? inconsiderate barsteward!:eek::eek::eek::eek:
 
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