Advice please!

Basically,

What these nice fellows is trying to say is there is you may have bought the wrong vehicle for the job.

You might not be able to tow your oss box with your gaylander as its not got the right capacity to do so.

At the moment though as you have realised there is a problem with your clutch, if i was you i would be talking it back to where i got it from and telling them there is a problem. Show them the problem(Even a gaylander should be able to tow an empty oss box) so show them what happens when you tow it and get them to fix it.

Or better than that return it get a refund and get a defender for towing.

Good luck

2000kg is limit for freelander (braked)

Try sitting with the car in gear and keep the clutch pressed down, if after time you find the clutch dragging and it feels like it's trying to drive away then it's the clutch hydraulics as already pointed out. It might be enough to convince the garage. My Defender currently does it but in normal driving it's not noticeable as you're on and off the clutch so quick. Only really noticeable when reversing slowly up my drive as you're using the clutch slip slightly.

3.5 efi said:

so does it boil the fluid?

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Dunno, it ended up all over the road though...

The crutch release arm was stiff on mine when i put the new slave/master on it. The piston on the slave cylinder had burst out of the cylinder.

GINGE said:

Basically,

What these nice fellows is trying to say is there is you may have bought the wrong vehicle for the job.

You might not be able to tow your oss box with your gaylander as its not got the right capacity to do so.

At the moment though as you have realised there is a problem with your clutch, if i was you i would be talking it back to where i got it from and telling them there is a problem. Show them the problem(Even a gaylander should be able to tow an empty oss box) so show them what happens when you tow it and get them to fix it.

Or better than that return it get a refund and get a defender for towing.

Good luck

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LOL I didn't actually say you couldn't tow horses with a Freelander, it is just about possible. Not two though.

Have a look at the towing clinic thread on the Horse & Hound forum, the arguments have been going on for years.

But the MAM on two horse trailers is too much, so they are illegal unless you get the plate on the trailer downrated to what the vehicle is allowed. Your local trailer dealer can advise and get it done.

Have you just bought the trailer, in which case, have you had it serviced. If the brakes are binding or something even a Defender will struggle. If the trailer isn't new also check that it hasn't been owned by someone like me. I have taken single floors out in the past and replaced them with double floors and stable matting which added a lot to the weight empty.

Why are you riding the clutch at all?

OK I know mine is a Fender, but when driving, reversing or manoeuvering there is enough power to allow the engine to do the work on tick-over.

If your Freelander can't do that, I suggest that you get yourself a Fender!

Oldseadog said:

Why are you riding the clutch at all?

OK I know mine is a Fender, but when driving, reversing or manoeuvering there is enough power to allow the engine to do the work on tick-over.

If your Freelander can't do that, I suggest that you get yourself a Fender!

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Probably cause Freelanders are cars

Fenders are designed for this job and 1st gear and reverse are slow enough on tickover. Cars go too fast once you have let the clutch up

My wife has a French heap of ****rone, and at tickover it will manage easily with a 250kg trailer, which is why I was just thinking ...

Oldseadog said:

My wife has a French heap of ****rone, and at tickover it will manage easily with a 250kg trailer, which is why I was just thinking ...

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So would the Freelander, which is about all I would want to tow with one

However to be fair to it, adding the second axle makes it a lot heavier to turn

suew said:

But the MAM on two horse trailers is too much, so they are illegal unless you get the plate on the trailer downrated to what the vehicle is allowed. Your local trailer dealer can advise and get it done.
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Doesn't the mam limits only come into it if towing with a 97 onwards licence?

SteNova said:

Doesn't the mam limits only come into it if towing with a 97 onwards licence?

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No, the MAM is for any licence. The restrictions on post 97 licences are a different subject.

Lots of girls wanting to tow horses without taking the test so its a huge subject in the horsey world.

Have a look at this

Welcome to HHO Towing Clinic

suew said:

Fenders are designed for this job and 1st gear and reverse are slow enough on tickover. Cars go too fast once you have let the clutch up

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Low box!

SteNova said:

Low box!

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Cars dont have it

suew said:

Lots of girls wanting to tow horses without taking the test so its a huge subject in the horsey world.

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Is that anything like a camel tow?

Sorry, I'll get my coat

Take it to the garage with the trailer on

suew said:

No, the MAM is for any licence. The restrictions on post 97 licences are a different subject.

Lots of girls wanting to tow horses without taking the test so its a huge subject in the horsey world.

Have a look at this

Welcome to HHO Towing Clinic

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i'll look, but i regually tow a 3.5ton mam trailer with my audi which has a 2.1ton tow limit

and on a 97> you have to be very exact, i worked this out for my old passat for the guys on the 106 forum
my passat has an unladen weight of 1.586t

add a 1.4t mam trailer which is less than the unladen cars weight

the car has a mam of 1.950t

makes a mam total of 3.35t so thats under 3.5t

so thats all good to go for an after 97 licence

also the 1.4t mam trailer weighs 350kgs empty so thats 1050kgs of load that can go on it a 106gti is 950kgs

SteNova said:

i'll look, but i regually tow a 3.5ton mam trailer with my audi which has a 2.1ton tow limit

and on a 97> you have to be very exact, i worked this out for my old passat for the guys on the 106 forum
my passat has an unladen weight of 1.586t

add a 1.4t mam trailer which is less than the unladen cars weight

the car has a mam of 1.950t

makes a mam total of 3.35t so thats under 3.5t

so thats all good to go for an after 97 licence

also the 1.4t mam trailer weighs 350kgs empty so thats 1050kgs of load that can go on it a 106gti is 950kgs

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The audi trailer combo is over weight in the eyes of the law.

goonarmy said:

The audi trailer combo is over weight in the eyes of the law.

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I agree, even if its not fully loaded. You need to get the plate downrated.

From the government


Car towing weight and width limits
Most cars have a maximum weight of what they can tow. It’s usually listed in the handbook or specification sheet.

Alternatively the vehicle’s gross train weight may be listed on the vehicle identification number (VIN) plate on the car. This is normally under the bonnet or inside the driver’s door. The gross train weight is the weight of the fully loaded car plus fully loaded trailer and must not be exceeded.

If your VIN plate doesn’t list a train weight, you should not use your vehicle for towing.

goonarmy said:

The audi trailer combo is over weight in the eyes of the law.

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humm, i thought downplating was only really something for 97> licences

anyway... if i'm over is this too?
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