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Cassillis

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Hi group and a Happy New Year to All.
I know some of the group use these systems. I have some money from Santa to
play with and quite fancy one.
I can lay my hands on a Garmin Street Pilot i3 GPS for what sounds a very
reasonable £149.
Does anyone have knowledge of this system?
Any other recommendations?
It will be going into my Defender 90 if this makes a difference

Ta


 
I use TomTom 5.1 on my XDA2 (a phone / pocket PC), and find it
brilliant, would recommend it to anyone. A further advantage is that
you can walk/cycle/sail/ drive around in another car with this type of
setup.

I bought a GPS unit , bluetooth for £60 off ebay, and if you dont want
a phone, pocket PC's go pretty cheap on ebay as well. Just remember you
will need an SD card for the maps. TomTom is quite expensive, but again
theres some decent deals around.

 
"Cassillis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi group and a Happy New Year to All.
> I know some of the group use these systems. I have some money from Santa

to
> play with and quite fancy one.
> I can lay my hands on a Garmin Street Pilot i3 GPS for what sounds a very
> reasonable £149.
> Does anyone have knowledge of this system?
> Any other recommendations?
> It will be going into my Defender 90 if this makes a difference


I have a Garmin StreetPilot 2620 which I chose because of the built-in 4Gb
hard drive with a fairly complete detailed map of Europe including some of
the accession countries. I had originally thought the 2660 with
dead-reckoning would be better but the salesman dissuaded me. (It turns out
he was wrong, BTW.)

Based on over a year of experience with it, in the UK, the Alps, the Black
Forest, and elsewhere I have decided it is only marginally satisfactory.
When it works it is excellent, but when it doesn't work it is perfectly
useless (obviously). Gotchas that I wish I'd known about: satellite signals
are very weak and just dense cloud or wet overhanging trees will all but
block it. (Picture me trying to find my hotel at the end of a network of
gravel mountain roads in dense forest in Austria during a thunder storm at
midnight with no satellite signal... How happy was I?) A poor antenna only
makes the problem worse, and internal antennae are (I have decided)
automatically poor antennae. Whatever you get make sure an external antenna
is at least an option.

Narrow alleys between buildings (e.g. Spanish and Italian villages), and
tunnels (e.g. Switzerland) get no signal at all and no antenna could
possibly help. I should have stuck to my preference for a dead-reckoning
unit; they are significantly more expensive (about double) but they work
when you need a GPS most. My night in the Austrian mountains was perfectly
hellish and it needn't have been.

Another thing to consider is that sometimes turns come up faster than the
GPS can announce them, especially in small villages, so be sure to get one
that displays the route ahead clearly even if it gives spoken instructions.
Mine has an irritating feature of zooming in on the next turn just as you
approach it, and sometime you don't find out there is another turn
immediately following until you've already passed it.

I wish I had known how my unit behaves when you go into an area where its
database is out of date. The Garmin just goes nuts. The fix is easy
enough: upgrade the database, but a more sane mode of failure would have
been good. (It might just display a message to the effect of "off road(?)".
The Garmin *does* understand off road driving BTW, and will record your
route and then direct you to back-track along it if you want to return,
which could be handy in the dessert.)

Be sure to get a removable/portable unit. Once you get used to it, you will
want to use it in whatever vehicle you happen to be driving.

Finally, using a GPS is more of a learned skill than you might think. You
can't just put your brain in neutral and let it lead you by the nose. You
have to stay on top of it. All it takes is a new roundabout; the GPS won't
announce it and unless you have a good mental picture of where you are going
you will start frantically looking for road signs (maybe not even knowing
what to look for) and you will stop concentrating on the traffic just when
it should have your undivided attention.

Having said all that, it has made driving into unfamiliar areas much easier,
and the ability to say "I feel tired; tell me the phone number of the
nearest hotel" is not only convenient, it could be a life saver. It
certainly makes long trips more relaxing and enjoyable (when it works)
because you don't need to tie yourself to a fixed timetable. I do strongly
recommend getting a GPS.

Roy


 
On 2006-01-01, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

> I use TomTom 5.1 on my XDA2 (a phone / pocket PC), and find it
> brilliant, would recommend it to anyone. A further advantage is that
> you can walk/cycle/sail/ drive around in another car with this type
> of setup.


I use it on a Palm, whichever PDA you use you get the advantage of
being able to whip the thing out of your pocket to investigate some
routes, e.g. to find out how long it will take you to get somewhere
and investigate where to park.

However if you don't use a PDA already then you have the disadvantage
of getting one, setting it up and getting it to work in the car (car
mount for PDA so you can see it), all this involves extra expense and
if you don't habitually carry a PDA around with you then much of the
advantage is lost. However if you're handy with filesharing then you
can download TomTom for most PDAs for free and test it out before you
buy.

For those who don't use a PDA and don't intend to, an all-in-one
sucker-mount device like a TomTom Go or the cheaper equivalents
available at hellfrauds are probably a better bet and can be taken
from car to car, and if there's an audio-out facility, can be used
with headphones on a motorbike too.

The TomTom appears to be the most widely-used device and is as a
result the best supported, with readily available points-of-interest
files downloadable from lots of places.

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
 
Hiya

Ive been ****ing about with pda's, jackets, bluetooth and the like with
tomtom for years.


Just before crimbo, i went out and bought a TomTom One for £220. Best thing
i ever did. Neat, Simple, Winner.

Mark.



"Cassillis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi group and a Happy New Year to All.
> I know some of the group use these systems. I have some money from Santa

to
> play with and quite fancy one.
> I can lay my hands on a Garmin Street Pilot i3 GPS for what sounds a very
> reasonable £149.
> Does anyone have knowledge of this system?
> Any other recommendations?
> It will be going into my Defender 90 if this makes a difference
>
> Ta
>
>



 
Cassillis wrote:
> Hi group and a Happy New Year to All.
> I know some of the group use these systems. I have some money from Santa to
> play with and quite fancy one.
> I can lay my hands on a Garmin Street Pilot i3 GPS for what sounds a very
> reasonable £149.
> Does anyone have knowledge of this system?
> Any other recommendations?
> It will be going into my Defender 90 if this makes a difference
>
> Ta
>
>

I use Tom Tom on a Nokia 6630 and a Globalsat Bluetooth.

Very impressed and very portable.

Cheers

Peter
 

Cassillis wrote:
> Hi group and a Happy New Year to All.
> I know some of the group use these systems. I have some money from Santa to
> play with and quite fancy one.
> I can lay my hands on a Garmin Street Pilot i3 GPS for what sounds a very
> reasonable £149.
> Does anyone have knowledge of this system?
> Any other recommendations?
> It will be going into my Defender 90 if this makes a difference
>
> Ta


I bought a Garmin Quest about 3 or 4 months ago and to be honest I have
a job to fault it. I managed to get it cheap through work but I can
tell you that had I known how good it was I wouldn't have hesitatedto
pay for it full up price!

I thought that the screen maybe too small but it's not proved to be a
problem so far. I bought it becasue it was NOT touch screen and it
works with ordnanace survey co-ordinates too. So you can navigate off
road and in conjunction with your old OS maps.

Throughly recommended. BTW I have used it in an ordinary car, my
day-to-day Range Rover Tdi and and new TD5 90. All fine although you
have to be careful to hear the voice directions in a 90, although press
a button on the display and "she" will repeat the direction for you. An
extremely well though out bit of kit!

Dave

 

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

Cassillis wrote:
> Hi group and a Happy New Year to All.
> I know some of the group use these systems. I have some money from Santa

to
> play with and quite fancy one.
> I can lay my hands on a Garmin Street Pilot i3 GPS for what sounds a very
> reasonable £149.
> Does anyone have knowledge of this system?
> Any other recommendations?
> It will be going into my Defender 90 if this makes a difference
>
> Ta


Thanks very much for a comprehensive shakedown of the various systems. My
choice would be a self contained unit that I can take from car to car. With
your helpful replies it has become very quickly obvious to me that this
subject needs more in-depth investigation so I'm off out to the shops to get
a hands on look at some of the kit about.
Thanks again guys, let you know how it goes.




 
Cassillis wrote:
> Thanks very much for a comprehensive shakedown of the various
> systems. My choice would be a self contained unit that I can take
> from car to car. With your helpful replies it has become very quickly
> obvious to me that this subject needs more in-depth investigation so
> I'm off out to the shops to get a hands on look at some of the kit
> about.
> Thanks again guys, let you know how it goes.


Dependws on bufget of course but Garmin i3 and TomTom ONE are good models.

--
Darren Griffin
PocketGPSWorld - www.PocketGPSWorld.com
The Premier GPS Resource for News, Reviews and Forums


 
I use a pda with gps built in (Medion) which is ok if your comp literate as
it can be a bit of a pain sometimes needing re-setting etc. but on the up
side I run my memory map s/w on it too which is very useful for plotting
greenlanes.

If you want a simple system then you'd be hard pressed to beat Tom Tom
navogators.

HTH, Roy.

"Cassillis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi group and a Happy New Year to All.
> I know some of the group use these systems. I have some money from Santa
> to
> play with and quite fancy one.
> I can lay my hands on a Garmin Street Pilot i3 GPS for what sounds a very
> reasonable £149.
> Does anyone have knowledge of this system?
> Any other recommendations?
> It will be going into my Defender 90 if this makes a difference
>
> Ta
>
>



 
In message <[email protected]>,
Cassillis <[email protected]> writes
>Hi group and a Happy New Year to All.
>I know some of the group use these systems. I have some money from Santa to
>play with and quite fancy one.


Try lurking here for a wee while

sci.geo.satellite-nav

and/or take a look here

http://www.garmin.com/mobile/compare.jsp

Ditto other brands.

--
Jonathan

"Police probe Leeds girl's snatch. Can you help?" - Crimewatch
 
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