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  1. taylorslandy72

    taylorslandy72 Active Member

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    Coulnt fault the way the S3 handled the snow, still gaving a bit of a nightmare with the battery on first start up tho in the cold.
     

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    Same problem with my batteries, they don't like it this cold, really struggled to turn over the engine despite being fully charged with a battery conditioner.
     
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    So true, its just that initial start up. Does make me wonder if there's anything that can be added
     
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    Greenhouse heater under the sump? I started a 3.4 ltr Jaguar this way at -12C. It cranked very slow but being petrol it only had to get over compression.
     
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    you could always install one of those coolant heater things that run off the mains. engine would be nice and warm so should fire more easily and if the engine bay is warm might help the battery too
     
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    Thought about it myself but the cost...!! In very cold countries like Canada and Scandinavia they also have internal sump heaters too. Never had this problem before and I remember 1963. What's more is my Landy was in a very well built garage, no drafts and double glazed windows. It starts but you begin to think it won't, really struggles to turn over, then, all of a sudden, it spins and bursts into life. Once it's going, no more worries for that day.
     
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    if it is inside then it might be better to do the sump heater suggestion.

    I have thought about the coolant heaters most winters mainly because we tend to defrost the cars by warming them up before setting off which does use a lot of petrol and you have to keep watch so no one drives them away

    but when the weather warms up I can't be bothered with the hassle of installing one
     
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    They're a bit like diff lockers - great to have when you really need them but that isn't very often. Having said that: starting up a warm engine cuts down on wear by a huge percentage, couple that with one of those pre-oilers that pushes oil around your engine before you start it and you are on your way to a million mile engine.
     
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    I suspect using a slightly thinner oil in the winter months might help. 20w/50 is probably quite thick at -5
     
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    Really a waste of time in British conditions. A Series, well set up, and with a good battery, will start well year round down to -10 or below.

    If you are worried about it, go to 10w40 oil in the winter months. I never did, and never had any problems.
     
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    My car battery is fine, but the Defender one is sitting beside me as I type in my office ! Fully charged, warm so ready to go when needed !
     
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    my reason for coolant heaters isn't for starting, mine all do easily - at the moment - but I have portable jump starters and chargers with a boost/start option and could jump from one of the other cars etc.

    it is simply to set off with a warm interior and have the screen and windows defrost quickly instead of having up to 3 cars on the street and drive with their engines running so that softies like myself the doris etc can get into a warm car :D

    we had a cheeky copper round here at one time that would drive your car round the corner then wait till you noticed it wasn't there and give you a dressing down for leaving it with the engine running in the street
     
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    3 minutes running doesn't burn a lot of fuel.
    You can use the time to top up washer bottle, etc.
    Put a sheet of foam over the windscreen last thing at night to prevent frosting.
    Never take your jumper off in winter in a Series.
     
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    Our good friend Big Sandy over on LRUK lives in the far north of Scotland and he always takes his battery indoors at night. I would do the same during this cold snap except for the fact that I have two batteries fitted and it's a faff to get them out from where they are situated. Talk about oil: I have a 200 engine in mine and it's running 15w 40. The thing is though: is this a problem with the batteries not liking the cold or is it the oil being thick? Probably a bit of both. Anyway, it's thawing now...
     
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    I ALWAYS let an engine run when starting from cold no matter what time of year - car, bike or Defender. Summer at least two minutes, winter often a fair bit more. Should always get all oilways and components fully lubricated before putting any engine under any load I was always taught.
     
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    Oil will be fine mate, just takes longer to thin down as takes longer to get warm. As I say above, should ALWAYS let it run before putting under any load no matter what time of year.
     
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    It is a good idea on older vehicles.

    Shouldn't make any difference on modern cars, they are designed to drive straight away, and the ultra thin synth oils get round quickly.
     
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    I always do, always have. Does it irritate you when you see someone start their car and drive straight away? And that dick Mike Brewer on the telly, revving an engine a couple of times from cold and then stopping the thing? Let the damn thing have a while to clear its throat at least you stupid idiot...
     
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    Very stupid thing to do, especially on a turbocharged engine.
     
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    What can you expect from a car salesman? They are the groupies of the motor trade but nobody in the band wants to f*** them.
     
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