4x4 response

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Its more to assist the emergancy services than individuals, i.e an ambulance in snow, paramedic in floods.

Food, water to those stuck without it, after floods etc.
 
I'm a member of the 4x4 Response Wales.

Its split into regions and has a local co ordinator in each area.

Last year during the snow they were used to ferry essential personel into hospitals, get prescriptions out to people snowed in etc, get meals on wheels out to remote locations and various duties like that.

Since joining i've been on a driver and vehicle assessment day where they looked at the kit I carry and made any recomendations for other stuff. (mainly blankets, recovery kit, personal survival kit (change of clothes etc and foods) something to write on, maps of my area, means of communication)

They then took us for a local drive with an assessor in each vehicle to see how we drove and how we handled convoy driving etc, then did a short offroad assessment to finish the day. All very simple stuff.

I have been offered a professional recovery course as well which I hope to do soon.
 
Holy resurrected thread, but I've been thinking about joining Devon & Cornwall 4x4 Response - anyone a member?

I don't have any off-road experience, but would like to get some, and it strikes me that apart from the obvious benefits to my immortal soul of volunteering, it's a good way to get to know local people who are into their 4x4s, and to do more with my 90 than drive it back and forth to Morrisons.

Volunteer work like this is not specifically either covered or excluded in my insurance, so I've contacted the provider (Lancaster) and they are looking into it for me. Would be interesting to know anyone else's experience with their insurers on similar things.
 
I have considered joining don't mind paying to join with training hi vis etc plus my work generally closes in snow so I would be free when needed or a good chance of it.

do all of them reimburse fuel ?(im in Wiltshire) as that was the only thing that put me off cant afford to loose money helping

don't want to make profit just actual fuel used would be good.
 
Volunteer work like this is not specifically either covered or excluded in my insurance, so I've contacted the provider (Lancaster) and they are looking into it for me. Would be interesting to know anyone else's experience with their insurers on similar things.

You need business insurance
 
No unless I'm being paid or helping LZIR, response groups can get stuffed as bunch of muppets.

If things are that bad let the army get out their barracks
 
Pay to help don't think so!!

Yes so
1) dogsbody receive no payment
2) pay for privilege of being glorified taxi
3) increased risk of insurance claim in adverse weather

If things are that bad army can get out barracks and do it.

4x4 response is jobs for the boys, re ponce unit
 
In the H&S mad world we now inhabit , you find that you very much have to play by their rules as fanatic says the most you get is glorified taxi . I had a spell as a first responder , had to give it up with change in occupation, but was ready to pull the pin anyway. You are not there to give a rapid response service, but to enable them to tick a box. We even had the situation where they bought two cars had them all battenburged, and fitted with blues etc , marked in big letters Ambulance First reponder. Then said if we wanted to be able to drive them had to have driving assessment, which I did , flying colours pass, ( I should think so with previous police and fire brigade training and more than 25 years such experience) . There was a key down by handbrake , so asked whats that for? "so we can lock off blues& twos when you use it " I kid you not . They didn't want you to up your skills , as they just want you to do what they needed out of you at your own expense , and time .

On the insurance thing , if its voluntary not using blues, your ins co will quite often include the cover for no or very little extra (NFU did for me)
 
In the H&S mad world we now inhabit , you find that you very much have to play by their rules as fanatic says the most you get is glorified taxi . I had a spell as a first responder , had to give it up with change in occupation, but was ready to pull the pin anyway. You are not there to give a rapid response service, but to enable them to tick a box. We even had the situation where they bought two cars had them all battenburged, and fitted with blues etc , marked in big letters Ambulance First reponder. Then said if we wanted to be able to drive them had to have driving assessment, which I did , flying colours pass, ( I should think so with previous police and fire brigade training and more than 25 years such experience) . There was a key down by handbrake , so asked whats that for? "so we can lock off blues& twos when you use it " I kid you not . They didn't want you to up your skills , as they just want you to do what they needed out of you at your own expense , and time .

On the insurance thing , if its voluntary not using blues, your ins co will quite often include the cover for no or very little extra (NFU did for me)

Third sector to cut costs, otherwise NHS could hire 4x4 as they have hospital drivers anyway, police have landrovers,fire service and army also

Having done fatal accident recovery (total lift to workshop for examination)
My view is that those genuinely looking to help would contact charity or organisation and offer help.

It seems 4x4 response have been contrived to fill a non existing problem and massage ego.
£80 a year to join lol fook that.
 
My old man worked in emergancy planning for years. Not sure where this sort of thing fits in with the multi agency responses.
 
My old man worked in emergancy planning for years. Not sure where this sort of thing fits in with the multi agency responses.

Glorified taxi services and ego massage.

I can't believe in a snowed in hospital situation front line staff couldn't take a nap and be fed in hospital.

Secondly an inch of snow and world goes to **** in uk, this is because investment for a relatively breif issue isn't worth it compared to places that have feet of snow
 
For the Nhs it's mainly getting district nurses and the like out to patients, I did this in 2013 when it snowed, I got bad looks off the 4x4 response lot who were on standby (I was in my Audi a6 with snow tyres) lol
 
Glorified taxi services and ego massage.

I can't believe in a snowed in hospital situation front line staff couldn't take a nap and be fed in hospital.

Secondly an inch of snow and world goes to **** in uk, this is because investment for a relatively breif issue isn't worth it compared to places that have feet of snow

I did I stayed at work for 4 days in the bad snow eating hospital good, sleeping on an a+e trolley in day surgery when I could (with 20 other people) and doing back to back shifts.

I got a lift in with a 4x4 but walked home 4 days later :) was quite good fun!
 
Well, I'm not going to argue the merits of volunteer work - it's something you either want to do or you don't. As a matter of fact my local 4x4R group is a charity. The way it works is that the police or other emergency services can call on the group co-ordinator when help is needed, and they will then mobilise a number of experienced, qualified, vetted, and insured 4x4 drivers to respond. It's not a matter of driving round on your own looking for stranded nurses, though I can see the attraction of that too.

This seems to be an area where I could help out, get to know some local 4x4 enthusiasts, and get some training in off-road and recovery techniques. For the record, business insurance is not necessary, it turns out - I'm already covered by my normal insurance. I'll let you know how it goes...
 
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