2a chassis number - predicament

Hello all,

I am in the process of swapping the reg number of my old trialler over
to my not to old 90. I have filled in the V317 from the DVLA and
written out the cheque. However, I have one problem. The chassis
number is missing from the 2a as that part of the chassis rusted away
and has been replaced with a new dumb iron.

The thing that worries me is that if I have to have the vehicle
inspected then the DVLA might end up giving me a "Q" registration or
something. WOuld an inspector be sensible enough to realise that the
chances of a 42 year old chassis being 100% original is slim

Answers on a postcard

Dave

On 8 Oct 2004 12:15:13 -0700, [email protected] (Dave Reynolds)
wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>I am in the process of swapping the reg number of my old trialler over
>to my not to old 90. I have filled in the V317 from the DVLA and
>written out the cheque. However, I have one problem. The chassis
>number is missing from the 2a as that part of the chassis rusted away
>and has been replaced with a new dumb iron.
>
>The thing that worries me is that if I have to have the vehicle
>inspected then the DVLA might end up giving me a "Q" registration or
>something. WOuld an inspector be sensible enough to realise that the
>chances of a 42 year old chassis being 100% original is slim
>

Get a chassis plate made up, screw it to the bulkhead. When they ask
to inspect the chassis number, show them the plate. If they ask for a
number on the chassis then tell them they'll have to find it, as you
only know the one on the plate.

Worked for me on more than one occasion.

Alex

I was honest when I had my Srs2 re-registered. When asked about the chassis
number I pointed out the plate in the cab when asked for more information I
told the very nice man that there should be one on the front dumb iron but
as it had been replaced it was gone.I seem to remember him saying "oh well
never mind"and the rest ,as they say is history.
"Alex" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 8 Oct 2004 12:15:13 -0700, [email protected] (Dave Reynolds)
> wrote:
>
> >Hello all,
> >
> >I am in the process of swapping the reg number of my old trialler over
> >to my not to old 90. I have filled in the V317 from the DVLA and
> >written out the cheque. However, I have one problem. The chassis
> >number is missing from the 2a as that part of the chassis rusted away
> >and has been replaced with a new dumb iron.
> >
> >The thing that worries me is that if I have to have the vehicle
> >inspected then the DVLA might end up giving me a "Q" registration or
> >something. WOuld an inspector be sensible enough to realise that the
> >chances of a 42 year old chassis being 100% original is slim
> >
>
> Get a chassis plate made up, screw it to the bulkhead. When they ask
> to inspect the chassis number, show them the plate. If they ask for a
> number on the chassis then tell them they'll have to find it, as you
> only know the one on the plate.
>
> Worked for me on more than one occasion.
>
> Alex

In <[email protected]> Alex wrote:
> On 8 Oct 2004 12:15:13 -0700, [email protected] (Dave Reynolds)
> wrote:
>
>>Hello all,
>>
>>I am in the process of swapping the reg number of my old trialler over
>>to my not to old 90. I have filled in the V317 from the DVLA and
>>written out the cheque. However, I have one problem. The chassis
>>number is missing from the 2a as that part of the chassis rusted away
>>and has been replaced with a new dumb iron.
>>
>>The thing that worries me is that if I have to have the vehicle
>>inspected then the DVLA might end up giving me a "Q" registration or
>>something. WOuld an inspector be sensible enough to realise that the
>>chances of a 42 year old chassis being 100% original is slim
>>
>
> Get a chassis plate made up, screw it to the bulkhead. When they ask
> to inspect the chassis number, show them the plate. If they ask for a
> number on the chassis then tell them they'll have to find it, as you
> only know the one on the plate.
>
> Worked for me on more than one occasion.

FWIW a brief survey I did a few years ago revealed that only about 1 in
10 Series Motors and 90/110 have serial numbers stamped into the chassis.
This applies to original, unrepaired chassis. It would seem that
actually stamping the serial number into the chassis was a bit hit and
miss (mainly miss !) at Solihull.

My 110 didn't have a chassis number on the chassis and neither did my
Series 3 or the Range Rover chassis that went under it. SWMBO's 90
doesn't have a number (1998) and neither did my 1980 Range Rover.

A number of people have said that it's difficult to spot but on each of
these vehicles I have been up close and personal with the bare chassis,
wire brushed every inch and painted it. I can tell you that the LH
chassis rail of my 110 (now 100 inch) was fabricated in July 1989 abd
the RH chassis rail was fabricated in August 1989 because that IS
stamped into the chassis rails. No number though.

LR have a long history of relying on the bulkhead plate for the chassis
number with either the screw on type of the Series motors or the later
style VIN plate on the top of the bulkhead. If you have a serial number
stamped on the chassis as well then you are in the minority.

The easy solution, of course, is to make sure that the number stamped
into the chassis is there and matches the bulkhead plate.... screwfix do
a nice set of punches that are ideally suited for this task ! Punch the
number into the chassis, paint the whole chassis and no more problem.

I'm doing this before I ship my 100 inch to Australia to make sure I
don't have any problems bringing it back in to the UK.

cheers

Dave W.
http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net/

"Dave White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In <[email protected]> Alex wrote:
> > On 8 Oct 2004 12:15:13 -0700, [email protected] (Dave Reynolds)
> > wrote:
> >
> >>Hello all,
> >>
> >>I am in the process of swapping the reg number of my old trialler over
> >>to my not to old 90. I have filled in the V317 from the DVLA and
> >>written out the cheque. However, I have one problem. The chassis
> >>number is missing from the 2a as that part of the chassis rusted away
> >>and has been replaced with a new dumb iron.
> >>
> >>The thing that worries me is that if I have to have the vehicle
> >>inspected then the DVLA might end up giving me a "Q" registration or
> >>something. WOuld an inspector be sensible enough to realise that the
> >>chances of a 42 year old chassis being 100% original is slim
> >>
> >
> > Get a chassis plate made up, screw it to the bulkhead. When they ask
> > to inspect the chassis number, show them the plate. If they ask for a
> > number on the chassis then tell them they'll have to find it, as you
> > only know the one on the plate.
> >
> > Worked for me on more than one occasion.
>
> FWIW a brief survey I did a few years ago revealed that only about 1 in
> 10 Series Motors and 90/110 have serial numbers stamped into the chassis.
> This applies to original, unrepaired chassis. It would seem that
> actually stamping the serial number into the chassis was a bit hit and
> miss (mainly miss !) at Solihull.
>
> My 110 didn't have a chassis number on the chassis and neither did my
> Series 3 or the Range Rover chassis that went under it. SWMBO's 90
> doesn't have a number (1998) and neither did my 1980 Range Rover.
>
> A number of people have said that it's difficult to spot but on each of
> these vehicles I have been up close and personal with the bare chassis,
> wire brushed every inch and painted it. I can tell you that the LH
> chassis rail of my 110 (now 100 inch) was fabricated in July 1989 abd
> the RH chassis rail was fabricated in August 1989 because that IS
> stamped into the chassis rails. No number though.
>
> LR have a long history of relying on the bulkhead plate for the chassis
> number with either the screw on type of the Series motors or the later
> style VIN plate on the top of the bulkhead. If you have a serial number
> stamped on the chassis as well then you are in the minority.
>
> The easy solution, of course, is to make sure that the number stamped
> into the chassis is there and matches the bulkhead plate.... screwfix do
> a nice set of punches that are ideally suited for this task ! Punch the
> number into the chassis, paint the whole chassis and no more problem.
>
> I'm doing this before I ship my 100 inch to Australia to make sure I
> don't have any problems bringing it back in to the UK.
>
> cheers
>
> Dave W.
> http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net/

Where are you going to go in Australia


Adam

In <[email protected]> Adam Bryce wrote:

>
> Where are you going to go in Australia
>

I'm competing in the outback challenge so based around Broken Hill NSW.

We'll be shipping into Melbourne, taking a detour to Sydney to visit
friends/relatives and then on to Broken Hill for the start of the event.
I'll have to see what state my motor is in after the challenge before
planning for anything afterwards

I'll only be there for three weeks including the event, a week either
side of the event.

cheers

Dave W.
http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net/

"Rory Manton" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I was honest when I had my Srs2 re-registered. When asked about the chassis
> number I pointed out the plate in the cab when asked for more information I
> told the very nice man that there should be one on the front dumb iron but
> as it had been replaced it was gone.I seem to remember him saying "oh well
> never mind"and the rest ,as they say is history.
> "Alex" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On 8 Oct 2004 12:15:13 -0700, [email protected] (Dave Reynolds)
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Hello all,
> > >
> > >I am in the process of swapping the reg number of my old trialler over
> > >to my not to old 90. I have filled in the V317 from the DVLA and
> > >written out the cheque. However, I have one problem. The chassis
> > >number is missing from the 2a as that part of the chassis rusted away
> > >and has been replaced with a new dumb iron.
> > >
> > >The thing that worries me is that if I have to have the vehicle
> > >inspected then the DVLA might end up giving me a "Q" registration or
> > >something. WOuld an inspector be sensible enough to realise that the
> > >chances of a 42 year old chassis being 100% original is slim
> > >
> >
> > Get a chassis plate made up, screw it to the bulkhead. When they ask
> > to inspect the chassis number, show them the plate. If they ask for a
> > number on the chassis then tell them they'll have to find it, as you
> > only know the one on the plate.
> >
> > Worked for me on more than one occasion.
> >
> > Alex

many thanks for all you suggestions. I'm hoping that they won't want
to inspect the vehicle as its always been registered and been taxed
and insured for a good few years, that and the fact i'd have to tow
the bloody thing to Swansea (60+ miles) as thats my local station. If
they do ask for one i'll just have to do something about it. Now then,
wheres my Screwfix catalogue.........