Registering a vehicle built from parts

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Hi all,
Some of my friends and I have come across some old land rovers locally that have the aluminium body parts in tact but everything else is totally rusted or missing. There's a series 1 and what I think is a land rover 90 and because of the lack of structural components the farmer is more or less looking for someone to take them away!

My question is. If we were to use the aluminium bodies and then buy in/build chassis and populate them with engines that are more available now rather than using the exact versions, how would we register this with the DVLA? I assume it would be an IVA and q plate but would they be replicas or can we just call it whatever we want?

Does anyone have any experience with this?
 
george man said:
Hi all,
Some of my friends and I have come across some old land rovers locally that have the aluminium body parts in tact but everything else is totally rusted or missing. There's a series 1 and what I think is a land rover 90 and because of the lack of structural components the farmer is more or less looking for someone to take them away!

My question is. If we were to use the aluminium bodies and then buy in/build chassis and populate them with engines that are more available now rather than using the exact versions, how would we register this with the DVLA? I assume it would be an IVA and q plate but would they be replicas or can we just call it whatever we want?

Does anyone have any experience with this?
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All the info is super easy to find on the .gov site and via Google.......

www.gov.uk

Vehicle registration

How to register your vehicle and the cost - new registrations, kit cars, rebuilds, radically altered vehicles, old and classic vehicles, vehicle identification numbers, Q plates
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk
www.gov.uk

Vehicle registration

How to register your vehicle and the cost - new registrations, kit cars, rebuilds, radically altered vehicles, old and classic vehicles, vehicle identification numbers, Q plates
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk

You will need to be able to obtain the logbook for the vehicles, so as long as they still have an ID they can be put back on the road. You need to keep certain items (explained in the links) to retain the ID. Keeping items means they can be replaced with an "as like" new part.

If they have no ID, then the challenge will be much harder. Where you will either need to use them to donate parts to a vehicle with an ID (aka buying something with an ID). Or you might be able to go down the kit car route, but may encounter some issues, as they would not be "Land Rovers" if registered as a kit car, which would impact resale value.
 
300bhp/ton said:
All the info is super easy to find on the .gov site and via Google.......

www.gov.uk

Vehicle registration

How to register your vehicle and the cost - new registrations, kit cars, rebuilds, radically altered vehicles, old and classic vehicles, vehicle identification numbers, Q plates
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk
www.gov.uk

Vehicle registration

How to register your vehicle and the cost - new registrations, kit cars, rebuilds, radically altered vehicles, old and classic vehicles, vehicle identification numbers, Q plates
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk

You will need to be able to obtain the logbook for the vehicles, so as long as they still have an ID they can be put back on the road. You need to keep certain items (explained in the links) to retain the ID. Keeping items means they can be replaced with an "as like" new part.

If they have no ID, then the challenge will be much harder. Where you will either need to use them to donate parts to a vehicle with an ID (aka buying something with an ID). Or you might be able to go down the kit car route, but may encounter some issues, as they would not be "Land Rovers" if registered as a kit car, which would impact resale value.
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I'm not fussed about resale value as I won't be putting in original components. I mentioned building a chassis rather than buying available ones as I'd rather have coils than leaf springs. The series 1 wouldn't be a show car it would be a daily driver because I love the look of them but want reliability when it comes to engines etc
 
Hows about buy something with a chassis then take the body off and replace it with Landy body then there's no IVA inspection it's just a simple body change on V5, my truck was a taxi
 

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george man said:
I'm not fussed about resale value as I won't be putting in original components. I mentioned building a chassis rather than buying available ones as I'd rather have coils than leaf springs. The series 1 wouldn't be a show car it would be a daily driver because I love the look of them but want reliability when it comes to engines etc
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As per the links, it all depends if you have a vehicle Identity you are working from. Major mods will likely require an IVA however and would get a Q plate. Else it would be a kit car/homebuild. The menu at the top of the page on either link shows you all the registration options. You might want to look at joining a kit car club/forum/webpage. As they are likely to be able to advise on specific aspects more so.
 
landowner said:
Hows about buy something with a chassis then take the body off and replace it with Landy body then there's no IVA inspection it's just a simple body change on V5, my truck was a taxi
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Yes, although this assumes the vehicle you are starting with has a valid identity.
 
Do you know of JLR would take issue? I'm mildly worried about having some trademark or copyright issue with registering a car with LR bodywork
 
300bhp/ton said:
Yes, although this assumes the vehicle you are starting with has a valid identity.
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There are cheap London Taxis on the market and there are no inspections after conversion as long as you use the chassis, engine and running gear. Just cut body off and build what you like ;)
 
george man said:
Do you know of JLR would take issue? I'm mildly worried about having some trademark or copyright issue with registering a car with LR bodywork
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Please read the links and the IVA guide, it'll probably answer the majority of your questions.

And no, that isn't how copyright works. But if it is a complete home/kit build, you won't likely be able to register it as a Land Rover if you have no originating identity.
 
landowner said:
There are cheap London Taxis on the market and there are no inspections after conversion as long as you use the chassis, engine and running gear. Just cut body off and build what you like ;)
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A London Taxi won't make for a very good off road Land Rover though. And I doubt you'd want to retain the basis of a Taxi if you are building a 4x4.....

The entire process is self cert. However an unroadworthy vehicle would not be legal to drive on the road. And you only need someone to drive into you at a junction or round about for it to cause a world of pain.
 
landowner said:
Hows about buy something with a chassis then take the body off and replace it with Landy body then there's no IVA inspection it's just a simple body change on V5, my truck was a taxi
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Just wanted to say this vehicle looks amazing! did you build the body yourself or is it a kit?
 
300bhp/ton said:
A London Taxi won't make for a very good off road Land Rover though. And I doubt you'd want to retain the basis of a Taxi if you are building a 4x4.....
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Isn't the wheelbase of a taxi the same as a 110? Taxi body/Landy chassis could make an interesting vehicle...
 
FlyingPete said:
Isn't the wheelbase of a taxi the same as a 110? Taxi body/Landy chassis could make an interesting vehicle...
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No idea tbh.

Fitting a body on a chassis is fine, although in the case of the Defender, it doesn't use a body tub, it has lots of separate panels. You'd need to weld and "modify" any chassis quite a lot to actually fit it. Which would probably be ok, but does maybe put you on slightly less firm ground on retaining a standard unmodified chassis.

I also think a taxi based Land Rover would have less than limited appeal, slow and noisy on road, but not in a Land Rover way and no off road ability.
 
Its simple, if youve got a logbook, vin plate, numberplates, etc, and a land rover that matches that logbook, even if everything steel has dissolved, you can buy a new chassis, bulkhead, etc and voila, all is well.
If you havnt got anything with a vin number or numberplate, i.e, youve got a pile of metal that looks a bit like a land rover, then best of luck proving to the DVLA that it is a land rover. Youll need to take it for an IVA test, and if it passes youll be given a Q-plate.
As for messing about with coil springs, just buy a defender which already has the suspension you want, rather than hack up a classic leafer.
 
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