2 questions (simple ones hopefully)

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Dr W

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I have two hopefully simple questions which I hope someone might have come across before.

1. After changing gearbox oil and filter on my 2000 DHSE I refilled with engine running and went through the gears filling up at each stage and then back through again. When I looked back under (with fill plug removed) there was a pool of fluid. My mate who was doing the filling while I went through the gears said it was now trickling out of the top so we put the plug back in.

My question is by going the gears (filling at each stage) and then going through again, did I force the oil that had been sucked up already, back out again and so has my gearbox not got sufficient fluid in it? It's still a bit sluggish changing gears (the reason for changing the filter in the first place and has a litre of Lucas Transmission fix in it) and I'm not sure I did it properly now???


2. The last couple of times I've gone to start from cold it's taken 3-4 attempts and then when it does start it struggles for a bit and then is fine, while out the back comes a big cloud of smoke? Is this because I'm giving it a bit of gas when trying to start?

It suffers from hot start problem but this is when the engine is cold. Could it be heater plugs? It's wierd because it's always been fine until yesterday, I didn't touch the engine when doign the service (apart from oil and air filters) strange?

Cheers for any help or advice
 
Dr W said:
I have two hopefully simple questions which I hope someone might have come across before.

1. After changing gearbox oil and filter on my 2000 DHSE I refilled with engine running and went through the gears filling up at each stage and then back through again. When I looked back under (with fill plug removed) there was a pool of fluid. My mate who was doing the filling while I went through the gears said it was now trickling out of the top so we put the plug back in.

My question is by going the gears (filling at each stage) and then going through again, did I force the oil that had been sucked up already, back out again and so has my gearbox not got sufficient fluid in it? It's still a bit sluggish changing gears (the reason for changing the filter in the first place and has a litre of Lucas Transmission fix in it) and I'm not sure I did it properly now???


2. The last couple of times I've gone to start from cold it's taken 3-4 attempts and then when it does start it struggles for a bit and then is fine, while out the back comes a big cloud of smoke? Is this because I'm giving it a bit of gas when trying to start?

It suffers from hot start problem but this is when the engine is cold. Could it be heater plugs? It's wierd because it's always been fine until yesterday, I didn't touch the engine when doign the service (apart from oil and air filters) strange?

Cheers for any help or advice
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I never touch the throttle when I start my DSE, but you could have a glow plug problem. Check with a 12volt bulb or voltmeter that you are getting full voltage to the glow plugs by connecting bulb or meter across one glow plug to earth while someone turns the key to position 2 with the engine cold. If you have around 12 volts the it could be a glowplug problem, if it's much less then look at the glowplug relay and connection or the fuse. Of course there are a number of other things it could be.:D
 
Any problem starting a dse then renew the leak off pipes, cheap and easy and nearly always the problem, they dont have to leak disel to suck in air and be a problem
 
Always check autobox fluid level when the car is stone cold (After it has been standing for at least 4 hrs). With the engine idling and the handbrake on, move the selector through the full gear range from Park to 1st, pausing for a couple of seconds at each one, then leave the selector in Neutral (Engine still idling)....check the level and top up to mark on dipstick. It goes without saying that the car should be on fairly level ground.
 
Irishrover said:
Always check autobox fluid level when the car is stone cold (After it has been standing for at least 4 hrs). With the engine idling and the handbrake on, move the selector through the full gear range from Park to 1st, pausing for a couple of seconds at each one, then leave the selector in Neutral (Engine still idling)....check the level and top up to mark on dipstick. It goes without saying that the car should be on fairly level ground.
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No dipstick on mine tho?:confused::confused:
 
I think I went through the gears and my mate topped up the oil at each stage instead of going through the gears and waiting and then topping up the sump. So perhaps this is why is chucked out the excess? not sure, so will check levels at weekend.

Mine also doesn't have a dipstick so it's a case of filling from underneath, god only knows why they got rid of the gear oil dipstick as it was a damn sight easier than scrabbling around in the dirt.

Will get some pipe today and let you know how I get on with the starting issue.
 
Before I go off and buy some pipe does anyone know how much I'll need? The local store has 1m in stock but will that be enough?
 
Dr W said:
I think I went through the gears and my mate topped up the oil at each stage instead of going through the gears and waiting and then topping up the sump. So perhaps this is why is chucked out the excess? not sure, so will check levels at weekend.

Mine also doesn't have a dipstick so it's a case of filling from underneath, god only knows why they got rid of the gear oil dipstick as it was a damn sight easier than scrabbling around in the dirt.

Will get some pipe today and let you know how I get on with the starting issue.
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hi,are you sure you do not have a dipstick for your auto box,you should have one.:confused::confused:
 
Not sure when they changed it but my mates 98 DSE has one and my 2000 DHSE doesn't so somewhere round then.

Thanks for the info on length required, just wanted to make sure I had enough before I started the job
 
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