101 Alternative shocks

So anyone got any ideas of source vehicles for an alternative shock absorber
for the 101.?

Stocks have all but dried up or are expensive

Thoughts were a bedford MK - anyone got a workshop manual with a picture of
the rear shocks ?

Or anyone got any other ideas

We have thought about setting up dual shock system but would rather find a
single solution if possible

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 11:39:40 +0100, "Rich Clafton" <rclafton at
lineone.net> wrote:

>So anyone got any ideas of source vehicles for an alternative shock absorber
>for the 101.?
>
>Stocks have all but dried up or are expensive
>
>Thoughts were a bedford MK - anyone got a workshop manual with a picture of
>the rear shocks ?
>
>Or anyone got any other ideas
>
>We have thought about setting up dual shock system but would rather find a
>single solution if possible
>

Have you tried Koni? They do shocks for classic vehicles, if you give
them the dimensions etc for the 101 shocks they might be able to
provide an equivalent.

Alex

> Have you tried Koni? They do shocks for classic vehicles, if you give
> them the dimensions etc for the 101 shocks they might be able to
> provide an equivalent.
>
> Alex

Have spoken to a rep at a show actually

Any ideas about how you sort out the damping force required ?

Especially as theres 2 types for 101's - ambi and the rest

Thanks for the thought though - will chase them up again

> Or anyone got any other ideas
>
> We have thought about setting up dual shock system but would rather find a
> single solution if possible

Rich

Mate of mine who is rebuilding a GS down to last nut and bolt has got
the local commercial vehicle parts place on the case. They were
successful with 3/4 sankey shocks so we are hopeful. I'll let you and
the rest of the 101 world know when it's sussed.

Sean
73FL74 101GS
1984 110 2.5NA
Medway Military Vehicle Group
www.mmvg.net

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 19:01:50 +0100, "Rich Clafton" <rclafton at
lineone.net> wrote:

>> Have you tried Koni? They do shocks for classic vehicles, if you give
>> them the dimensions etc for the 101 shocks they might be able to
>> provide an equivalent.
>>
>> Alex
>
>Have spoken to a rep at a show actually
>
>Any ideas about how you sort out the damping force required ?
>
>Especially as theres 2 types for 101's - ambi and the rest
>

I didn't know the ambi had different shocks. Mind you, I never changed
them on mine. The seem to make so little difference to the ride that
they might as well not be there.

Besides, how many MOT testers can jump up and down on the corner of a
101 sufficiently to determine that the shocks are working? They
certainly can't check them properly on my IIa, they usually give up
after one corner.

Alex

> I didn't know the ambi had different shocks. Mind you, I never changed
> them on mine. The seem to make so little difference to the ride that
> they might as well not be there.

Actually most ambi's seem to run on GS shocks - seems the army had the same
problem so just fitted what they had
My ambi is on GS shocks front & back

>
> Besides, how many MOT testers can jump up and down on the corner of a
> 101 sufficiently to determine that the shocks are working? They
> certainly can't check them properly on my IIa, they usually give up
> after one corner.
>

Its really cos mine are tired and my mates have let all the oil leak
out..... so we had to do a bit of swapping for MOT time

Rich

> Mate of mine who is rebuilding a GS down to last nut and bolt has got
> the local commercial vehicle parts place on the case. They were
> successful with 3/4 sankey shocks so we are hopeful. I'll let you and
> the rest of the 101 world know when it's sussed.

Oh sounds interesting - definatly keep us informed

Rich

> Oh sounds interesting - definatly keep us informed
>
> Rich

I was being a bit optomistic, they have drawn a blank unfortunately.
The guy who asked them to check has also just found 2 brand new ones
amongst his stockpile of bits, lucky sod.

Sean
73FL74 101GS
1984 110 2.5N/A
Medway Military Vehicle Group
www.mmvg.net

Sean

Oh well - thought it was too good

Have any of your group got a beddie MJ/MK manual, wondering if they might do
the job but can't find one locally to have a look at

Cheers

Rich

"Sean Ryan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > Oh sounds interesting - definatly keep us informed
> >
> > Rich
>
> I was being a bit optomistic, they have drawn a blank unfortunately.
> The guy who asked them to check has also just found 2 brand new ones
> amongst his stockpile of bits, lucky sod.
>
> Sean
> 73FL74 101GS
> 1984 110 2.5N/A
> Medway Military Vehicle Group
> www.mmvg.net

> Have any of your group got a beddie MJ/MK manual, wondering if they might do
> the job but can't find one locally to have a look at

No sorry Rich, TM only, think they may be a bit stiff for a 101!
There is at least one trader at Sodbury who also does Bedford bits,
usually on the hedge line along from the entrance.
You could try http://www.bedfordparts.co.uk/about.shtml who are the
main bedford stockists for the world, based near Maidstone. They may
be able to measure a few shocks up, something from a J type may work.

Sean
73FL74 101 GS
1984 110 2.5N/A
Medway Military Vehicle Group
www.mmvg.net

On or around 17 Oct 2004 13:04:30 -0700, [email protected] (Sean Ryan)
enlightened us thusly:

>> Have any of your group got a beddie MJ/MK manual, wondering if they might do
>> the job but can't find one locally to have a look at
>
>No sorry Rich, TM only, think they may be a bit stiff for a 101!
>There is at least one trader at Sodbury who also does Bedford bits,
>usually on the hedge line along from the entrance.
>You could try http://www.bedfordparts.co.uk/about.shtml who are the
>main bedford stockists for the world, based near Maidstone. They may
>be able to measure a few shocks up, something from a J type may work.

what about something like large-size transit or small ford cargo?

g from a J type may work.
>
> what about something like large-size transit or small ford cargo?

Have thought of those too, will have a nose when I pass one parked sometime

Rich

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:39:04 +0100, "Rich" <r clafton at zen co uk>
wrote:

>> what about something like large-size transit or small ford cargo?
>
>Have thought of those too, will have a nose when I pass one parked sometime

Remember to take a jack and some bricks...

On or around Wed, 20 Oct 2004 13:56:41 +0100, Mother <"@ {m} @"@101fc.net>
enlightened us thusly:

>On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:39:04 +0100, "Rich" <r clafton at zen co uk>
>wrote:
>
>>> what about something like large-size transit or small ford cargo?
>>
>>Have thought of those too, will have a nose when I pass one parked sometime
>
>Remember to take a jack and some bricks...

snigger.

I'm assuming that the sought-after dampers are simple telescopic ones.
'most all the trucks use such, the only question you might have is whether
they have enough travel. There are ways around that, too, though, like
mounting them at an angle to multiply the travel.

'course, the other thing is to fit two lesser dampers per side, if the
problem is simply one of not having a stiff enough damper.

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:28:54 +0100, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I'm assuming that the sought-after dampers are simple telescopic ones.
>'most all the trucks use such, the only question you might have is whether
>they have enough travel. There are ways around that, too, though, like
>mounting them at an angle to multiply the travel.

It makes sense, lest you be a rivetcounter, obviously, to source
suitable replacements which you can buy off the shelf. Some 101
owners will die with the original shocks on (read into that what you
will), others who use theirs on a regular basis may be more concerned
with the shockers doing their job properly rather than being authentic
or expensive.

> It makes sense, lest you be a rivetcounter, obviously, to source
> suitable replacements which you can buy off the shelf. Some 101
> owners will die with the original shocks on (read into that what you
> will), others who use theirs on a regular basis may be more concerned
> with the shockers doing their job properly rather than being authentic
> or expensive.

Spoken like a true user of a 101 martyn - thats exactly the issue, hence
going PAS and the recent mods to fit a 110 servo

The proper shocks seem to be good unlike most standard landy shocks but it
would be nice to have an off the shelf replacement

Now the perfect spare would be off a merc so we can get them anywhere

Rich

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 22:19:35 +0100, "Rich Clafton" <rclafton at
lineone.net> wrote:

>Spoken like a true user of a 101 martyn - thats exactly the issue, hence
>going PAS and the recent mods to fit a 110 servo

Yeah, not sure I'd do the PAS again. Charlotte is _far_ too fond of
it...

On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 17:12:04 +0100, Mother <"@ {m} @"@101fc.net>
wrote:

>On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 22:19:35 +0100, "Rich Clafton" <rclafton at
>lineone.net> wrote:
>
>>Spoken like a true user of a 101 martyn - thats exactly the issue, hence
>>going PAS and the recent mods to fit a 110 servo
>
>Yeah, not sure I'd do the PAS again. Charlotte is _far_ too fond of
>it...

Hah, serves you right for making it comfortable and easy to drive.

Heavy steering, funny brakes, confusing gearlevers, leaky door seals -
the best way I know to prevent other people wanting to drive it.

Alex

Did we ever find rear shocks?