I still dont know what a hyclone is

[wallbanger]

 

[G-man]

snake oil

 

[wallbanger]

Cher,s mate I thought I was all alone in hear. Do I drink it or put it in the fuel tank.

 

[G-man]

drink it it puts the zing in your ding-a-ling

 

[bustersbus]

It's yer doppleganger on drugs!!!

 

[locket]

It is a metal device that fits in the air hose between the air flow meter and the inlet manifold. It has blades that are shaped like turbine and works on the theory that swirling air will produce more power.

There are no moving parts at all.

Numerous tests have been done by various mags with no improvement noticed.

 

[CharlesY]

Things like that have been on the go since the 1920s.

They work on the same principle as "the King's new clothes".

Gullible people are not prepared to be seen saying they can't see how the hiclone things works, so they try to appear knowledgeable, and some of them pay money and fit them.

Then, because they paid money and made an effort to fit the things, they want to think it made a difference, so they DO feel a difference but only in their minds or because they alter the way they drive. That alone MAY justify fitting the things for some people.

However, testing has shown that they do not improve anything. In a word, anything that gets in the way of the air flow MUST impede the flow of air, and that MUST mean less air reaches the cylinders, which MUST mean less power.

I'm afraid that's the way it is.

CharlesY

 

[congo181]

In a word, anything that gets in the way of the air flow MUST impede the flow of air

What, like a Turbo?

Only jossing ya

 

[CharlesY]

What, like a Turbo?

Only jossing ya

But you are right!

If the impeller of the turbo just sat there in the air flow it would slaughter the performance, but lucky for us some smart arse (a Doctor Buchi actually in 1920 -something) worked out how to spin the impellers at tremendous speeds using the exhaust gas to drive it. 1920 decade mind, in diesel engine railcars.

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The first exhaust-driven supercharger was developed by Dr. Alfred J. Büchi of Switzerland between 1909 and 1912. Dr. Büchi was Chief Engineer of Sulzer Brothers Research Department and in 1915 proposed the first prototype of a turbocharged diesel engine, but his ideas gained little or no acceptance at that time.

The rest is history.

CharlesY

 

[yella]

The rest is history.

CharlesY

i think that bit is history as well as the rest

 

[slob]

But you are right!

If the impeller of the turbo just sat there in the air flow it would slaughter the performance, but lucky for us some smart arse (a Doctor Buchi actually in 1920 -something) worked out how to spin the impellers at tremendous speeds using the exhaust gas to drive it. 1920 decade mind, in diesel engine railcars.

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The first exhaust-driven supercharger was developed by Dr. Alfred J. Büchi of Switzerland between 1909 and 1912. Dr. Büchi was Chief Engineer of Sulzer Brothers Research Department and in 1915 proposed the first prototype of a turbocharged diesel engine, but his ideas gained little or no acceptance at that time.

The rest is history.

CharlesY

so, correct me if am wrong here. if yer have un impeded air flow into yer cylinders yer get more power?

so if i take the head of me injun it should produce unlimited power cos its got no restrictions at all

 

[wallbanger]

Cor blimy its not often im stumped for words but COR BLIMY!!!!!!!!!!! my question seems a bit insignificant in relationship to the answer from CharlesY.

 

[slob]

folk sake lad, dint be put out .. charlesy would write a whole volume just to answer if he wanted sugar in his tea

 

[yella]

if yer tek the pistons out, even more air can get into the cylinders

 

[yella]

aye thats fook all, ive known him write 5 thousand words to tell someone how to change a bulb

 

[slob]

aye then yer could lighten the crank cos it wouldn't have any force on it.. fook it just take the crank out anorl

 

[yella]

if yer dropped the sump it would flow through quicker as well

 

[slob]

and open it up cos one big un will be of a bigger volume cos it wint have all them bits inbetween

 

[slob]

then if yer stick a fan on it that will increase the flow aswell

 

[slob]

ah feel a new engine development being born here