Flywheel Wading Plug

[sp00k]

Hi,

I've got a strange plug in my 200 TDI in the hole where the wading plug should be. It has a hole in the middle of it that's about 5mm. It takes a 12mm socket on the bolt head but it's so tight that when trying to remove it, I have stripped it.

Is this standard for to some 200 TDI disco engines or is it part of some weird wading kit? It's really annoying as it means I can't go through any deep water until I get rid of it. The smaller hole does not appear to be threaded.

Was going to get some Irwin Socket Removers but the only places I could get them were both shut today

 

[jamesmartin]

not std either some ones fitted another plug or drilled original for a locking pin idea,your bell housing will still fill up even with a plug unless you silicone bell housing to gear box and engine

 

[Freelaner]

Sounds like the timing bolt's been left in and the pin's come out of it.

 

[landowner]

Warm it up with a blow torch , mine needed that and it came out easy once nice and hot (I rounded it off beforehand as well)

 

[sp00k]

Warm it up with a blow torch , mine needed that and it came out easy once nice and hot (I rounded it off beforehand as well)

Tried that - well with my little propane and butane torch. Made no difference.

 

[jamesmartin]

Tried that - well with my little propane and butane torch. Made no difference.

hit it ,then hit it with socket on before head mushrooms too much to get socket on

 

[sp00k]

not std either some ones fitted another plug or drilled original for a locking pin idea,your bell housing will still fill up even with a plug unless you silicone bell housing to gear box and engine

What's the point of the wading plug then James? I did not silicone the bellhousing, but I would have done if I had known. I presume getting dirty water on the clutch is not going to do it much good!

 

[sp00k]

hit it ,then hit it with socket on before head mushrooms too much to get socket on

I've been afraid of hitting it in case it fractures the casting. Will it be ok?

 

[jamesmartin]

the housing is very strong ,plug helps keep water out as in going through a ford quickly but wont stop if prolonged wading down flooded road in which case open and letting water in/out quickly would be better,definitely remove straight after wading

 

[warrior]

I dint remove mine ( timing case) after off roading them my timing but went I do now, I also silicones my bell housing and starter when I did the clutch

 

[landowner]

Tried that - well with my little propane and butane torch. Made no difference.

That's what I used, then started it turning with a dot punch and hammer, came out easy once started

 

[sp00k]

Cheers, I will have another go tomorrow.

EDIT: I will enjoy beating the crap out of it after freezing my nuts off messing about with it today.

 

[landowner]

Cheers, I will have another go tomorrow.

EDIT: I will enjoy beating the crap out of it after freezing my nuts off messing about with it today.

Just don't heat it up very hot, then dot punch it to free it off, then mole grips to undo it, then ....

















PICK IT UP WITH YOUR FINGERS....OOOOWWWWWWCH ,,VERY HOT

 

[sp00k]

Problem was the metal was very soft. I tried a socket in it, but once you get some pressure on, the socket pops off. Even after beating and heating

I got a set of Irwin Bolt Removers (as recommended some months ago by oldseadog) and one of them got it straight off.

Thanks for the advice guys.

I'm going to do a search, but if anyone knows the size and threads for the flywheel and timing chest bolts...

 

[aaronmorris]

Problem was the metal was very soft. I tried a socket in it, but once you get some pressure on, the socket pops off. Even after beating and heating

I got a set of Irwin Bolt Removers (as recommended some months ago by oldseadog) and one of them got it straight off.

Thanks for the advice guys.

I'm going to do a search, but if anyone knows the size and threads for the flywheel and timing chest bolts...

Guess they're all made of cheap ****e metal, Mine did exactly the same when I tried to remove it to the timing belt.

 

[sp00k]

Guess they're all made of cheap ****e metal, Mine did exactly the same when I tried to remove it to the timing belt.

I think the wading plugs are the same as the ones on the fuel filter, which are proper bolts. This is probably just a timing pin bolt made of a cheap light alloy, designed to go in hand tight. Why some nut job has massively overtightened it and left it in permanently is anyone's guess. It was on the engine when I got it, and I've never been able to release it - even when I had the flywheel cover off and soaked it in penetrating fluid.

 

[mlucas110]

Mines done the same. Cheap crap. Was also worried about heating it up to much but now you all say its OK I'm gunna give it ago.

 

[kes86]

The Irwin nut removers got the stuck and rounded off wading plug out of mine. The hammered on sockets wouldn't touch it unfortunately

 

[sp00k]

They are my new favorite tool

Irwin Bolt Grip Nut Remover Set 5 Pieces | Screwfix.com

 

[aaronmorris]

They are my new favorite tool

Irwin Bolt Grip Nut Remover Set 5 Pieces | Screwfix.com

excellent bit of kit, Got me out of the ****e a few times