Front a frame for towing a td5 disco

[navigator16078]

Anyone ever fitted one to a disco 2 front end


cheers lee

 

[dyte]

Anyone ever fitted one to a disco 2 front end


cheers lee

They are only legal for recovery dont think it would be a good idea with such a heavy vehicle

 

[navigator16078]

I want to tow it behind my traction engine as i did with my 300tdi

 

[dyte]

I want to tow it behind my traction engine as i did with my 300tdi

Not legal unless you are recovering it simples but i have seen lots behind campers but the only way to tow it legally for transportation is on a trailer

 

[Soloby Rob]

They are only legal for recovery dont think it would be a good idea with such a heavy vehicle

And I believe recovery is to a safe place only, not from a to b.

 

[Fur Trapper]

I want to tow it behind my traction engine as i did with my 300tdi

Might be a different set of rules for farmers towing behind a tractor. If you did with your 300 don't see a difference. Like driving a quad on the road, different rule for the farm

 

[dyte]

And I believe recovery is to a safe place only, not from a to b.

Yup

 

[landowner]

Legal if the trailer (vehicle) is braked.

the AA used to have a system that worked on a push system like trailer brakes but operated the vehicle brakes via thing inside that pushed the brake pedal

Not very succesful but made towing heavier vehicles a bit safer for them.

 

[dyte]

Legal if the trailer (vehicle) is braked.

the AA used to have a system that worked on a push system like trailer brakes but operated the vehicle brakes via thing inside that pushed the brake pedal

Not very succesful but made towing heavier vehicles a bit safer for them.

But the aa are a RECOVERY service lol

 

[landowner]

But the aa are a RECOVERY service lol

Still legal if towed vehicle is braked, I enquired a few years ago when I used to tow my race car on an A frame.

Maybe changed since

 

[navigator16078]

Its different rules for steam you can tow them all i want to know if you can fit a frame mounting eyes on the front without destorying the front plastic bumper

 

[ratty]

Its different rules for steam you can tow them all i want to know if you can fit a frame mounting eyes on the front without destorying the front plastic bumper

You could fit a steering gaurd with recovery points and then use the recovery points to attach the A frame to.

Out of curiosity, what's the exclusion that steam uses to get around the C and U and trailer braking regs?

 

[navigator16078]

Just weight and power also grandfather rights

 

[ratty]

Just weight and power also grandfather rights

You don't happen to know the actual c and U rules for exculsion that you use?

 

[johnny curt 1]

You could fit a steering gaurd with recovery points and then use the recovery points to attach the A frame to.

Out of curiosity, what's the exclusion that steam uses to get around the C and U and trailer braking regs?

maybee one of 2 main factors

1 a steam traction engine usualy weighs in at around 12 tonnes

2 the traction engine will only ever do about 25 mph flat out

the brakes on a traction engine are that massive and over engineered i dont think another 2 tonnes train weight is going to make much difference to one of those monsters

 

[GreenHornet]

I have had a couple of mates in the past who have the large motor homes. One guy used a trailer to ferry around a smart car and another used an a frame to tow his fiesta. The a frame was legal as he had a cable going from the tow ball connection to the brake pedal. So instead of operating a trailer braking system it simply pulled the brake pedal.

I would agree with above and state that using a steering guard to provide necessary mounts would be a preferred way to mount an a frame and protect the vehicle from damage.

Now how about some pics of the traction engine

 

[Jongould]

It is legal if the towed vehicle is braked, that is how the camper crews get on with it, alot of them also utilise the towed vehicles electrics for the lights e.t.c.

What you will have to watch is the weight an length, alot of big trailers and vehicles need to have to have a taco fitted nowadays in order to adear to current laws. This applies to non standard vehicles too, I know this as if I use a braked trailer behind my recovery truck I need a taco and that is classed in the same category as cranes I belive (something to do with the fact it lifts).

 

[navigator16078]

what is and where would i buy a steering gaurd with recovery points

 

[Pikey]

It is legal if the towed vehicle is braked, that is how the camper crews get on with it, alot of them also utilise the towed vehicles electrics for the lights e.t.c.

What you will have to watch is the weight an length, alot of big trailers and vehicles need to have to have a taco fitted nowadays in order to adear to current laws. This applies to non standard vehicles too, I know this as if I use a braked trailer behind my recovery truck I need a taco and that is classed in the same category as cranes I belive (something to do with the fact it lifts).

I int gonna post all the legalese Again!! This topic has been covered too many times. A motor vehicle is not a trailer. and towing one behind another vehicle is only legal if it is been recovered to a place of safety.

They aren't legal because they aren't reversible for a start. The brakes on a motor vehicle do not match the requirements for trailerbrakes.

How would you reverse this combination given that the brakes will engage as soon as you start to reverse.

The only car you can tow behind another vehicle is the Axiom. As it weighs less than 750kg.

 

[The Mad Hat Man]

out of interest - what if the driver is in the towed vehicle, operating the brakes and steering?