Garrison Door Deadlocks [van type]

Turboman said:

Just out of interest, does anybody do anything about the hinges?

From memory, only a nut and a pin holds each rear door hinge, and if you remove them, you can just remove the door, I should think?

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Think door hinge bolt.
Used on timber doors for years and easily made from a bit of scrap rod or plate. Can’t see the advantage of special or expensive hinge fixings with such a foolproof method.


no need to buy anything if you have a welder and a scrap of steel.

There’s no way a door is being lifted off without a grinder.

If aesthetics aren’t an issue and you stitched a plate on the inside face of the door, it would wrap round the inside of the door frame and a standard grinder disk probably wouldn’t even reach it from the outside.

Bobsticle said:

Think door hinge bolt.
Used on timber doors for years and easily made from a bit of scrap rod or plate. Can’t see the advantage of special or expensive hinge fixings with such a foolproof method.

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no need to buy anything if you have a welder and a scrap of steel.

There’s no way a door is being lifted off without a grinder.

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That should work. I am not about to do it myself, as I don't have a Land Rover.

Was just a passing enquiry.

The problem is, everyone does have grinders now, little cordless dremel thingies with a cutting disc in them.
That is how the boats get broken into now, the boats themselves are like steel tanks, with big locks on them, but people just cut round the locks.

Turboman said:

That should work. I am not about to do it myself, as I don't have a Land Rover.

Was just a passing enquiry.

The problem is, everyone does have grinders now, little cordless dremel thingies with a cutting disc in them.
That is how the boats get broken into now, the boats themselves are like steel tanks, with big locks on them, but people just cut round the locks.

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It’s an issue I’ve pondered with my steel lockup doors. I’ve fabricated bolts and hinge security that can’t be reached with a five inch grinder from the outside. Then again I am awesome.

nowt stopping them cutting a new door though

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I have used these on shutters on holiday homes, the thing is you do not see them out here (I get them from the UK) so unlike the Euro-lock no one knows the easiest way to open them, but with cordless angle grinder the doors can still be opened in seconds,
Alarms work better if there is someone to hear it

Ian M in France said:

I have used these on shutters on holiday homes, the thing is you do not see them out here (I get them from the UK) so unlike the Euro-lock no one knows the easiest way to open them, but with cordless angle grinder the doors can still be opened in seconds,
Alarms work better if there is someone to hear it

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Or someone to hear the grinder

Bobsticle said:

Or someone to hear the grinder

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I would still go for the alarm, does not have to be expensive just make a lot of noise

Ian M in France said:

I would still go for the alarm, does not have to be expensive just make a lot of noise

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layers are always best. I think a car alarm is a must but I usually make my own. The problem with all available alarm systems is the alarm bypasser learns how to disable them. If it is a one off he won’t know where to start.
My lockup alarm is silent. It simply phones me at the first sign of an attempted breech. There are so many following loops to jump through to gain access that the ten minutes they take gives me time to wander over with my balaclava and baseball bat.

I have also fitted a warning LED. Just a little flashing red light next to a continuous yellow one coupled with beeper.
It only flashes when an integrated doppler radar break out board detects movement outside the lockup. Sounds very complicated but that little light coming on and the beep when you approach the doors puts the fear of god into your average scumbag.

I know coz I’ve watched them on cctv

Bobsticle said:

It’s an issue I’ve pondered with my steel lockup doors. I’ve fabricated bolts and hinge security that can’t be reached with a five inch grinder from the outside. Then again I am awesome.

nowt stopping them cutting a new door though

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Not such a problem with garage doors, a cordless tool might run out of oomph before cutting a wooden door reinforced with steel.

But with soft Land Rover alloy, you could cut a hole in a panel pretty easily.

Turboman said:

Not such a problem with garage doors, a cordless tool might run out of oomph before cutting a wooden door reinforced with steel.

But with sort Land Rover alloy, you could cut a hole in a panel pretty easily.

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They could cut the roof off in seconds.
But not after trying the easy options. That’s why I like making bespoke barriers. They don’t expect them and they all take time they haven’t got.

Turboman said:

Not such a problem with garage doors, a cordless tool might run out of oomph before cutting a wooden door reinforced with steel.

But with sort Land Rover alloy, you could cut a hole in a panel pretty easily.

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no wood in my lockup doors. It’s a 40mm box steel frame, clad on either side with steel sheet.

Bobsticle said:

They could cut the roof off in seconds.
But not after trying the easy options. That’s why I like making bespoke barriers. They don’t expect them and they all take time they haven’t got.

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Little flashing LED light inside is probably as good an idea as any. It doesn't actually have to do anything, as you say, thieves tend to give stuff they think has a high tech alarm a swerve, especially if it has physical defences as well.

Turboman said:

Little flashing LED light inside is probably as good an idea as any. It doesn't actually have to do anything, as you say, thieves tend to give stuff they think has a high tech alarm a swerve, especially if it has physical defences as well.

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Mine is just a friendly warning.
The poacher mines filled with naga chilly powder are the real deterrent. By the time I wander round the corner all I’ll have to deal with are some snotty scrotes rolling round on the floor crying coz theyre blind.

Oh, I have put industrial approved warning signs on the door in case the fire brigade have to get in. If they have any sense they’ll be well suited and booted before they open up.

Bobsticle said:

Mine is just a friendly warning.
The poacher mines filled with naga chilly powder are the real deterrent. By the time I wander round the corner all I’ll have to deal with are some snotty scrotes rolling round on the floor crying coz theyre blind.

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Just make sure you don't trigger it on yourself!

Don't ask how I know that happens!

Turboman said:

Just make sure you don't trigger it on yourself!

Don't ask how I know that happens!

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Oh I have. I simply waited a week before returning and had to spray everything down before touching anything.
I still have a big red stain on the ceiling at the impact point.

Bobsticle said:

I’ve fabricated bolts and hinge security that can’t be reached with a five inch grinder from the outside. Then again I am awesome.

nowt stopping them cutting a new door though

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Insulate the door with the same material chainsaw trousers are made from to clog the cutter.