P38 Off-Road Equipment

SnowmanV8 said:

Your an idiot

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And you're uninformed.

kooky_guy said:

And you're uninformed.

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No I'm not you just assume that unless it is the best off roader it cant go offroad! Its all or nothing I hope to see your p38 at a pay and play.

kooky_guy said:

Don't think that's true. The major selling point of the Range Rover has always been it's off road ability. It has always been advertised as such - it would be disastrous for LR's reputation to dumb down their flagship.

My understanding was that the Disco was introduced to tap into the new shopping trolley/school run market for which the RR was perceived to be too expensive compared to the new Japanese competition. The fact that it was actually adequate off road was an accident of it's origins rather than a particular intention...

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The original Disco was good offroad because under the skin - it's a Range Rover. The Range Rover was originally better off road than the Land rover which was still hampered with cart springs limiting wheel articulation and steering lock. Of course the Land Rover Series gained Range Rover-like suspension and became the much improved Defender.

The Land Rover product with (by far) the deepest official wading capability is the L405 Range Rover.

StuckAgainSteve said:

The original Disco was good offroad because under the skin - it's a Range Rover. The Range Rover was originally better off road than the Land rover which was still hampered with cart springs limiting wheel articulation and steering lock. Of course the Land Rover Series gained Range Rover-like suspension and became the much improved Defender.

The Land Rover product with (by far) the deepest official wading capability is the L405 Range Rover.

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I dont do pay and play but use my P38 to go places and see things like Mongolia where you do need wading ability This video shows me paying 5 Euros to be towed across a river as i am 6000 miles from home with no backup.
river crossing in Mongolia - YouTube

but if you want to see serious river crossing watch this
Nithus.ch Russian Truckers Cross River - YouTube

Grit Valve said:

...as for snorkel it's unlikely needed as air intake sits above engine on diesels where as defenders air intake is at the side and more likely to draw in water unless you plan to use it as a Submarine they have also raised the air intake for the v8 as well .... Corrected for complaints

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The air intake on a 2.5DSE does not sit above the engine, it is located roughly half way down the front wing.

BTW lets get :focus:

O Bife said:

The air intake on a 2.5DSE does not sit above the engine, it is located roughly half way down the front wing.

BTW lets get :focus:

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Not if you remove the box and stick a k&n or similar then its above, far cheaper than a snorkel and no cutting holes on the wing

Grit Valve said:

Not if you remove the box and stick a k&n or similar then its above, far cheaper than a snorkel and no cutting holes on the wing

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And that will hoover up any water that splashes up under the bonnet or gets picked up by the fan and sprayed around.

Before thinking about fitting a snorkel, there's a problem with the plastic fan that breaks once in contact with water (usually taking the rad out in the process). I've seen this happen to 2 P38s: as soon as the water gets high enough the water will hit the fan and this will break it.
This doesn't happen to the V8s though, as those have a different fan where the outer part of the blades are all connected by a plastic rim, thus improving the overall resistance.
To overcome this problem some have fitted electric fans that can be switched off before entering deeper waters, but those usually have the problem of not starting once you come out of the water

is it the aircon fan or the viscous fan that breaks ???????

mutsnutz said:

is it the aircon fan or the viscous fan that breaks ???????

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Viscous

so in theory if they do datateks aircon mod it wont be a problem

just found a you tube link for p38s off roading Best Of [Range Rover P38] - Off Road - YouTube it had the lad from rr revolution in it

Won't let me see it. Says it's blocked in my country????

Bull**** thing lol

sorry mate try typing the name of it on you tube might get it that way

mutsnutz said:

just found a you tube link for p38s off roading Best Of [Range Rover P38] - Off Road - YouTube it had the lad from rr revolution in it

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That's right

996TURBO said:

That's right

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some awesome stuff on there mate i like the extended height sensors

AS somebody that has had a P38 for 8 years and drives off road quite often and has just spent 10 days driving through up to 30" of water to help the poor buggers flooded in Shepperton I would disagree with you wammers ! In 10 days of constant wading in deep wayter only once did I have a little panic when a Nissan pick up drove towards me at speed and sent a bow wave up my windscreen and the engine flutted and farted for a minute before clearing, since then the front near side hieght sensor has been playing up so is being changed thursday but cant be 100% sure that is down to the water

carbonbiped said:

AS somebody that has had a P38 for 8 years and drives off road quite often and has just spent 10 days driving through up to 30" of water to help the poor buggers flooded in Shepperton I would disagree with you wammers ! In 10 days of constant wading in deep wayter only once did I have a little panic when a Nissan pick up drove towards me at speed and sent a bow wave up my windscreen and the engine flutted and farted for a minute before clearing, since then the front near side hieght sensor has been playing up so is being changed thursday but cant be 100% sure that is down to the water

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So you repeatedly drove a P38 through deep water and it has not been relegated to a drive ornament? Get yourself down the newsagent and buy a few lucky dips - you're on a roll.

stuckagainsteve said:

so you repeatedly drove a p38 through deep water and it has not been relegated to a drive ornament? Get yourself down the newsagent and buy a few lucky dips - you're on a roll.

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+1

carbonbiped said:

AS somebody that has had a P38 for 8 years and drives off road quite often and has just spent 10 days driving through up to 30" of water to help the poor buggers flooded in Shepperton I would disagree with you wammers ! In 10 days of constant wading in deep wayter only once did I have a little panic when a Nissan pick up drove towards me at speed and sent a bow wave up my windscreen and the engine flutted and farted for a minute before clearing, since then the front near side hieght sensor has been playing up so is being changed thursday but cant be 100% sure that is down to the water

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You are entitled to do what you want with your car, 20 inches is max recommended though, with certain added precautions. But hey ho you carry on, not a problem for me.