You Warned Me But I Didn't Listen

Replace the air bags - it is cheaper and you still then have the functionality

magictiny said:

Replace the air bags - it is cheaper and you still then have the functionality

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I agree if the EAS is working £250.00 or so for four new air bags against £450.00 for a spring conversion is a no brainer. You can do a lot of repairs to the EAS for the extra £200.00 if required.

Thanks guys.. thats very useful info

Petbe, don't convert to springs.....maybe get a quote from a second mechanic as well, give Jason a ring and check pricing before you commit to high prices and possibly unnecessary work.....I know only too well how mature women (well, maybe younger ones too!!!) are real targets for some of these garages.......

Part of the Rangie lifestyle is the EAS - replace the airbags and they should be fine for another 5 years - that's certainly been my experience. The adjusting suspension is a lot nicer than springs.

Take your time before committing to expensive repairs to the oil leaks as well - as I said, get a second opinion or come and ask the guys here after you've got the garages opinion - no charge!!!

Hi Petbe

Rangiegal and Wammers are right I would just get Jason to replace them for you, if you want to shop around for the air bags and then get Jason to fit them for you it will be more benefit for you and part of the experience of the Range Rover is having the EAS. If I was closer to you I would come and do it for you and unfortunately I do not have any customers in your area otherwise I would of killed two birds with one stone and made an appointment in your area.

If you do some shopping around run the prices on the forum and we will advise which is the best offer.

Matt

I have saved Jason's number to my phone, and am certainly listening to you guys, and gal... and yes I know what you mean about us 'young' gals.. it was one of my fears, and always has been when searching for a Range Rover, hence I joined this forum and tried to learn as much as I could.

This was also why I didnt agree to anything last night, or call around to pick the car up, I wanted time to discuss things with you guys..

I have 200% faith in you all, hence the Rangie is still with me, as the temptation to PX it was so high, but, I really dont want to do it, unless it would be to change for another Rangie.

I love the feeling of being surrounded with 'marshmallow' and thats how it feels, so its great news to hear that springs would cost me more, initially anyway..

Matt, your signature says, One Life Live It, and thats the top and bottom of why I bought this Rangie, so she stays, and I live !

Petbe said:

I have saved Jason's number to my phone, and am certainly listening to you guys, and gal... and yes I know what you mean about us 'young' gals.. it was one of my fears, and always has been when searching for a Range Rover, hence I joined this forum and tried to learn as much as I could.

This was also why I didnt agree to anything last night, or call around to pick the car up, I wanted time to discuss things with you guys..

I have 200% faith in you all, hence the Rangie is still with me, as the temptation to PX it was so high, but, I really dont want to do it, unless it would be to change for another Rangie.

I love the feeling of being surrounded with 'marshmallow' and thats how it feels, so its great news to hear that springs would cost me more, initially anyway..

Matt, your signature says, One Life Live It, and thats the top and bottom of why I bought this Rangie, so she stays, and I live !

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Ok lets go through this. Flat battery after a few days. Battery found to be duff, fitted new battery. Battery goes flat again AA start and car left running for an hour and a half. Battery flat again. Alternator DUFF (Failed diode? New brushes control box? needed) New battery DUFF? One of those. Cannot be RF unit 2000 models have modified one. Another favourite. If battery ok and alternator ok. Is EAS delay relay under passenger seat. If this has failed it does not put EAS to sleep and causes flat batteries.

2000 only has mk2 rf box, thats why no number printed on it. you need the mk3, it was just a con by land rover to misslead people out of £150..

Wammers thats very interesting, as this car did have a few issues over suspension.

When I took it for a test drive, I stopped after driving a hundred yards, as the suspension was going up and down like a yo yo and making some terrible sounds, the garage blamed me for fiddling with settings, which I may well have done whilst sitting in the car when first looking at it.

When parked up, the suspension stayed high, and after that test drive, I made sure I never touched anything to do with the suspension again..

Also, you could hear something running after ignition switch off, which didnt sound like the normal fan.

Should I ask the mechanic to replug the ariel then? or is it best left out?

Or do I need the Mk 3 that J mentions?

Leave it out - you can still use the buttons on your key fob - but you have to be close to the car

Petbe said:

Wammers thats very interesting, as this car did have a few issues over suspension.

When I took it for a test drive, I stopped after driving a hundred yards, as the suspension was going up and down like a yo yo and making some terrible sounds, the garage blamed me for fiddling with settings, which I may well have done whilst sitting in the car when first looking at it.

When parked up, the suspension stayed high, and after that test drive, I made sure I never touched anything to do with the suspension again..

Also, you could hear something running after ignition switch off, which didnt sound like the normal fan.

Should I ask the mechanic to replug the ariel then? or is it best left out?

Or do I need the Mk 3 that J mentions?

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I have a 1999 and have no problems with RF reciever. But maybe i don't live near enough to anyone to affect it. The RF problem seems to be confined to vehicles earlier than yours. So it maybe a red herring that is all i am saying. If you feel better about it, leave the aerial off, at least if your battery goes flat again you will know or be reasonably sure it's not that causing it. If everything is ok now that you have disconnected the RF aerial then all is well. If not you will have to start looking for other causes.

Found an interesting Battery Drain test on You Tube - good start for understanding 1st principles - also shows how to re-synce the key fob...
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3seI-KU5S1w"]YouTube- P38 Range Rover Battery Drain Test - Becm Sleep Test[/nomedia]

Now I would never have thought of Youtube.. great find Magictiny ! and so handy, is there anyway of putting that link on a sticky for others to see?

Wammers, I will leave that cable off, after all its no hardship to unlock from a foot or so away.. thanks again.

Petbe said:

Wammers, I will leave that cable off, after all its no hardship to unlock from a foot or so away.. thanks again.

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OK let us know how you get on.

Well, today I have been to chat with Cheviot 4 x 4 and we have agreed, they are going to do the worst of the airbags now and the oil leak from the front, then next month I will get the other airbags done, and the leak from the transfer box done.

And hopefully after that, she will be happy for a little while.

Till the next thing no doubt.......lol

Well guys, as I have only just got my Rangie back, I thought it was time for an update..

No fault found on battery discharge.. everything worked A OK for several weeks while it was in the garage.

Although they did leave the RF wire off.

I had the rear air bags done, an oil leak done, and the oil coolant assembly replaced, so I am £600 poorer now.

However, its solved nothing..

I drove home, got out and the car wouldnt respond to the fob, no matter how close I was to the rear window.

So next morning, the lad from the Land Rover Specialist came around, and yes he agreed, there was a problem, so took both keys to put new batteries in, just in case.

He brought them back Friday evening... but no.....nothing.

I tried today again, and unlocked it via the key, and of course it wouldnt let me start it saying something about Key Lockout.

So I tried the press fob, turn key to left, press and turn to right, as directed in the video on YouTube. This time I got the bloomin Engine Disabled thing.. I pressed fob to re sync... but no.

The dealership is telling me to order 2 new keys.. but thats another £250

I dont have the key code, that wasnt supplied with the car, so I will go to my nearest Land Rover Dealership on Monday, with my documents and get it and see what happens if I try that.

Last time this happened, I put the RF wire back and all worked again..

Tempted to try it, but its now raining...

However, Im back to square one if I do that.

I had a look at a newer Vogue Petrol model today, drove it around and OMG... love at first sight..

So Im tempted.........very tempted...

But afraid..

Is it true that on newer models the frequency is different? I was told that its changed from the 433, but these days I believe nought...

Anyway, thought you would be interested in the further adventures of the Rangie that just doesnt want to go anywhere !

Have you disconnected the right connector from the RF receiver? The single wire?? If you have taken off the other connector it will give you the sort of problems you describe. So will a faulty RF receiver of whatever age.

Most unlikely that 2 FOB's would have failed at the same time.

Hi Data..

Well here we go again......haha

I opened her up, with the key, and went to check the RF cable (blue one), which was out, the other one is in.

So, I tried the same thing I did when first this problem appeared, I put the RF back... and lo and behold she started.

The only message I got was that the key fob battery was low, weird as it had a new battery put in only yesterday..

I havent tried the other key yet.. will do it now.

Petbe said:

Hi Data..

Well here we go again......haha

I opened her up, with the key, and went to check the RF cable (blue one), which was out, the other one is in.

So, I tried the same thing I did when first this problem appeared, I put the RF back... and lo and behold she started.

The only message I got was that the key fob battery was low, weird as it had a new battery put in only yesterday..

I havent tried the other key yet.. will do it now.

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The battery low message will come up if you have had the key in your pocket. The buttons press too easily.