Yorkshire Dales Laning Weekend 19-21 July

wickford90 said:

what aerial you using in the lap top, and have you got correct baulk settings.

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I think so, it works in the Focus but in the Landy the laptop keeps shutting down. I think its a power problem with the cig lighter in the landy.

Paul D said:

No, sorry. We had a nice breakfast and just meandered steadily home. Juliet wasn't feeling too good so we didn't do any lanes.

Went past (what I think was) Kirkstall Abbey .. wonderful looking old ruin, but by that time we cba to stop .. mean to go back and visit soon though!

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Yes its Kirkstall Abbey, if you like that sort of thing its worth stopping at Bolton Abbey on the way from the Dales, I prefer it.

Got the memory map working, locking to a route and tracking where I have been. Just wish it would work in the Landy. A couple of changes to the Sunday route, been round part of it in the Focus, found the start and end of most of them. But one I couldn't find at all, it was just a field.

Even in the car it was a fantastic drive, the tarmac lanes were interesting and the views fantastic. Been over a few dams, through forests and visited West End the village they flooded for one of the dams. Lovely evening and not a single lane done

suew said:

I think so, it works in the Focus but in the Landy the laptop keeps shutting down. I think its a power problem with the cig lighter in the landy.



Yes its Kirkstall Abbey, if you like that sort of thing its worth stopping at Bolton Abbey on the way from the Dales, I prefer it.

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wickford90 said:

Cig lighters aren't the best I fitted a couple of these to power IPad / phone 12v Round Socket - Sockets & Plugs - Electrical - Products

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Thanks, that what I need

Just emailed the Leeds PROW, one of the lads didn't think that the one at the bottom of pool bank is a lane, had a "discussion" about it, some did, some didn't (seems there have been issues in the past with the house owner at the bottom, whose drive you have to go up, and right past his house to get to it) so emailing to get the definitive answer.
Hes been quick at getting back to me previously, so should have an answer today.

got an answer, however, slightly ambiguous

"Staircase Lane is a publicly maintained highway and it is believed it has bridleway rights."

believed, so does it or doesn't it??

timtheenchanteruk said:

"Staircase Lane is a publicly maintained highway and it is believed it has bridleway rights."

believed, so does it or doesn't it??

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i would say yes its driveable

"publicly maintained highway" means it's a highway, which says to me it's legal to drive a motor-vehicle along it .. in this case they also believe it has bridleway rights too, which doesn't stop it being a legally drive-able highway. There are many cases of roads also having footpath or bridlepath rights too .. but having those extra rights doesn't preclude motor vehicles from also having rights to use them.

Maps often mark roads with bridleway status, which can confuse users, as we demonstrated on Saturday!! OK, better safe than sorry, but I am increasingly getting militant and want to drive disputed lanes anyway, and argue the toss in court of necessary!

Which lane is it? grid ref? pm or email me, I'll see what i can dig up ..

PM sent.

TBH I never thought about a road having bridleway rights.
I always though, the highest denomintation means anything under it can use too.
Ie footpath walkers only, bridleway bikes, horses AND walkers, highway vehicles, and anyone that can use bridleways etc etc...

pm received, map perused and yes, assuming it's the North/South running track, it's definitely marked as an unclassified road .. however the chap dislikes it, it doesn't appear to be his driveway .. but that is often a bone of contention. The tracks, which may even be private roads, going West/East are marked as footpaths, but it may be that local landowners have rights to drive them, which doesn't mean anyone else can without permission.

Regarding the driveway (I'm guessing it's the Northernmost house of the few houses near the southern end, or the one in the wooded area) .. If that bit of 'the roadway' is actually owned by him (doesn't look like it) he is within his rights to stop people driving it. If he only has a right of access or an easement then he cannot stop anyone from using the road and cannot block the road either.

This is a good looking, short, maybe 1/2 mile lane, on the side of a hill with a copse/woods in a small valley/clough near the lower end of the hill, so obviously of interest to 4x4's and it may be worth emailing rights of way officer or even visiting (by appointment only, usually) council offices to check the definitive map.

its a nice lttile lane, and its apparently the house in the woods that has been the issue previously.

My post above was the reply from the PROW officer, unless I need to specifically ask the definitive map to be checked??

timtheenchanteruk said:

its a nice lttile lane, and its apparently the house in the woods that has been the issue previously.

My post above was the reply from the PROW officer, unless I need to specifically ask the definitive map to be checked??

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In that case no, he should know and as his reply says it's a highway, then it's a highway.

Having bridleway rights doesn't mean you can't drive it unless it becomes a properly recorded Bridleway.

Totaly off subject but i have now got a cb so can here what is getting said lol
Well will when i fit it

If you need a hand I have a swr meter and can use it ..

The people living on that lane have been arguing about it for at least 40 years. They used to shout at us when we rode the horses up it when we were kids, they didn't even like walkers. The other (E/W) track is definitely a private road/footpath. Andrew Fielder built it as access to his equestrian centre many years ago. The house owners on the lane managed to get horsebox access stopped due to the poor get out, so Andrew bought the old railway line as access instead.

Magic, as long as its legal, I shall continue to drive it good steep bit if yer doing it from the bottom, nice when its been raining

On leave now until 15/7/13

Anyone want to go out and check some more of the route

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I can say those 2 near us are fine unless you like shiny paint, then not so fine few bits of scratch gorse over the chevin one, and a couple of boulders that may need shifting, clonked me steering guard on one yest

timtheenchanteruk said:

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I can say those 2 near us are fine unless you like shiny paint, then not so fine few bits of scratch gorse over the chevin one, and a couple of boulders that may need shifting, clonked me steering guard on one yest

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Thanks

You got your Landy fixed yet